Is more better than less

Ali M

Assuming diet & training is spot on, would the experianced AAS user's say more is better, than less?

Im thinking the more steroids you use in your stack the bigger the pottential for growth.

Now don't get me wrong here, im only opening up a debate. Is more better then less?

Thanks guy's

PScarb

the simple answer is no!! we could go into receptor down regulation/saturation but i will leave that bit to the guys who like to google

a little story for you...
In jan 2004 i started a course which lasted 15months in total, i started lowish approx 1g total per week by the end of that course i was on 3g per week don't get me wrong i did grow and i was very successful in competition but for the amount of gear i was taking the growth did not match.....in may 2005 i stopped all steroids for 11months as my wife and i was trying for our 2nd child 11months later she fell pregnant and i went back on the gear now my receptors where nice and fresh so i took it easy.....between April 2006 when i competed at the NABBA West and the same show in 2007 i gained 16lbs stage to stage that is 16lbs of muscle but i did this with no more than 1250mg per week of gear on any one cycle......so in my opinion for me More is not better....

Bodyworks

agreed. this year i experimented with much higher doses than i've ever used. the end result, i looked WORSE. straight up. i've since returned to the way i've always done it, and there is no comparison.

Ali M

LOL. That sentance made me smile.

Well great replies and to be honest i was toying with the idea of using megga dossage to see responce... and glad i got 2 fantastik replies from 2 of the best guy's around...

Well no megga dossages for me and ill always check back here to make sure the stacks i use are ok...

Neil if you get to this thread mate be keen to see your responce...

crazycal1

why were you considering megadoses dude?

einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know.

www.extremenutrition.co.uk

Tall

Hey Ali,

Unless I am wrong and I very well could be I think I have an idea where this is going. I'm not going to make assumptions, and hopefully won't cause you any offence.

I know that everyone is different and that no one diet works for everyone, and no one exercise routine works for everyone.

But from reading your posts I know you have said you weren't that impressed with the results you got from running HGH, and from older posts I know you've run a few cycles before.

Personally, and this is only my opinion, I don't think you eat enough in order to increase your size.

I know you are happy with your current size - 10% BF, abs showing, chest definition etc, but if you wanna take it up a notch you really got to eat like a horse.

Not having a dig or whatever cos I know you sometimes don't like my posts - not 100% sure why but as they say 'we are where we are', but I honestly beleive that getting more food down your neck would give you great progress.

If you wanna drive a car fast - you need plenty of petrol.
If you wanna drive it slow, you dont need so much fuel.

Building muscle takes lots of fuel, maintenance requires less fuel.

If you are on cycle you need an awful lot of fuel down your neck mate.

But get that balance right of Lifting Heavy, Sorted Diet, Correct 'Supplements', and Quality Rest and you'll do well.

Hope that helps.

Squatty

What is your cycle history mate?

I may have got this completely arse about face but wasnt it less than a year ago that you ran your first one? I seem to remember your thread about the problems you were having selecting the least painful injection site.

We've probably all got our own definition of what a "megadose" is. Im sure you said that you spent £1000 on the last one - what sort of megadose did you have in mind for this one?

Neil R

It does make me smile that the mega dose theories floating around are TOTALLY misunderstood.
From memory I would say it all stemmed from an article Paul Borreson did way back in '98 or '99 regarding a 'Quick fix cycle'.
This involved using Mega mixes, which were usually Sust, Testoviron, Deca and Primo with shots being done daily for 20 days.
The subsequent buildup of androgens amounted to roughly 2500 to 3000mg a week and was backed up with Growth, insulin, T3 or T4 and Anti aromatases, plus synthol for those inclined (this was the infancy of synthol use and not frownd on like it is today)
The critical statement almost everyone missed was that this stack was designed for a 300lb+ Mr Universe competitor with 15 years experiance of gear, who had hit a plateau, and it was a ONE OFF cycle to break through this plateau. ie :- NOT intended for regular use!!
Many other "wannabe's" tried the stack. got a decent level of success and before you knew it people were 'jumping on the bandwagon' and advocating higher dose stack so they could pretend to be as 'theorically intelligent' as Paul Borreson.
Pauls regular stacks, and the ones he used himself were much closer to the 1mg per kg bodyweight per day, so your average 100kg bodybuilder would be using 700mg a week. Which actually fits in almost pefectly with the mathematics of your bodies own production.
If you are not growing from that then you are not giving yourself enough time between cycles for HTP axis recovery.

Sorry for the smart-arse reply but i'm having carbs today!

Bodyworks

"Pauls regular stacks, and the ones he used himself were much closer to the 1mg per kg bodyweight per day, so your average 100kg bodybuilder would be using 700mg a week."

this ain't what i've been told by people who knew him. bottom line though, just do your own thing. f*ck what jonny big buggar takes, that's his choice.

Oh, and a final note on this. whatever people admit to taking, double it and that's closer to the amount they're really using.

bulldozer

I tend to agree with TH&S .

I remember one of your first threads on here saying that you had only been training a year but had already done 2 cycles.

Im guessing you wasnt happy with your past cycles so are looking to up the dose.

If you wasnt gaining from previous cycles, especially ones you spent over a £1000 perhaps you need to be looking at other factors of your training regimine. My guess would be as TH&S said already that your diet is lacking.

Taking the drugs is one thing, but without adequate nutrition and smart training your just gonna go round in circles.

Just my 2 pence, something to think about mate