My Contest Prep Cycle

J-man

Hi guys could you please take a look at my contest prep cycle the products I'm taking are all british dragon, the cycle is 1 50mg winstrol tab a day, 1 10mg anavar a day, 1ml of tren enth 200 a week, 1ml of primo 100 and 1ml of masterbol enth 200. The show is in september it will be my 1st show thanks guys.

Rianabol

Hi mate

These meds are good for cutting, but to maximise potential should be used at specific times until the show. i would probably be using test just now as u have a few weeks to go,guys like pscarb have just competed and will be better at explaining,

R

PScarb

i am guessing that this is a 12 week cycle?? if so then the first 6-8 weeks should be nothing more than a longer ester like Sus250 or Enthanate then at the 4-6 week mark swap over to the Prop's/Tren's and other faster steroids...

the masteron and winny definatly leave out until the latter part of the cycle...

the Primo and Anavar at these dose will do nothing at all so either drop them or raise them...

LeeB

as has been said... bit pointless starting them all now and sticking with them..

try and look at it from the point of:

week 1 blah blah blah
week 2 blah blah blah

etc.. all the way up to the show.. saving the hardeners for the last few weeks as has been suggested, one of the main advantages of gear whilst dieting is that it spares you losing muscle - so test is pretty important especially in the initial part of the diet.

also as pscarb says the primo and anavar are very low and results wont be great (unless you have had good results with these dosages in the past)

is this your first show or have you competed previously?

im competing in sept too... only 10 weeks left... sh*t! lol

crazycal1

whereabouts and what show is it you competing in lee?

einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know.

www.extremenutrition.co.uk

J-man

Hi guys thanks for the info. I was wondering if I switch to test will the estrogen be out my body before the contest date would I best be taking anti-estrogen's up to the show as well just incase. Yes Lee mate this is my first show I'm doing the 1st timers at the North staffs open in kisdgrove (stoke-on-trent). The tren 200 seems to be a potent muscle builder for me so if I can keep that going and the winstrol then introduce 2 ml a week of test propinate or cypionate will that be o.k. Thanks guys J-man.

PScarb

both Tren and Winny are harsh on the body especially winny on the joints....

The most common approach is to use longer ester gear like Enthanate/Sus for the first half of the cycle normally 6 weeks then switch over to the hardening drugs like Tren/Winny/Prop along with a decent AI like Adex or Letro 6 weeks is long enough by far to get rid of water bloat from estrogen normally associated with the longer estered drugs in fact you can get rid of this within 10 days if planned correctly...

LeeB

good luck for the show mate!

ill be doing ukbff leicester on 2nd sept.. if im not too fat! lol

j-man, do you have someone prepping you for the show/giving you advice or are you doing this yourself. i ask this cos its always best to listen to the one person who is getting you ready as there are many different approaches so any advice we give may conflict with the overall plan.

just to give a bit more explanation, try and look at the overall course in the following way.

week1 - long acting test/androgens
week2 - long acting test/androgens
week3 - long acting test/androgens
week4 - long acting test/androgens
week5 - short acting test/anabolics/anti estrogens
week6 - short acting test/anabolics/anti estrogens
week7 - short acting test/anabolics/anti estrogens
week8 - short acting test/anabolics/anti estrogens
week9 - anabolics/anti estrogens/hardeners etc.
week10 - anabolics/anti estrogens/hardeners etc.
*show day is last day of week 10.

The above is just simply a very rough outline to try and explain the principles of what has been suggested above, the first few weeks you will still hold water due to the estrogen in your system.. then you switch to less aromatisable compounds (i.e. less estrogen) for a few weeks, with the last couple of weeks getting rid of any estrogen and hardening you up.

the idea behind this is to keep the muscles as full as possible for as long as possible and keep the test in to hold on to as much muscle as possible.

BUT, like i have said. chose 1 person to listen to as there are lots of different ways to get ready for a show... for instance, last year, my last sust jab was the day before the show, accompanied by 50mg of dbol... and as you can see from my pic i wasnt in too bad nick! - thats not that im advising you to do the same tho! cos theres more to it than that! this year im using an approach similar to the one above.

J-man

Hi thanks guys I have just added 2ml a week of sust to my contest cycle I'll do this for 4 weeks along with 1 ml every 5 days of tren enth as I have always noticed my strength goes through the roof on tren. Weeks 4 to 8 I'll add 2 clomid tabs a day and switch to test propinate and keep with the tren going every five days. The final weeks I'll go all out with 2ml of primo a week, 2ml of materbol, 50mg of winstrol tab a day and yet again my favourite tren enth 200. Thanks guys you have been a real great help the contest prep I was following was the cycles recommended in anabolics 2007 I know now those cycles are merely outlines. Yes Lee mate I am doing this alone I feel that all the guys in my gym are just people who like to talk but don't know what they are talking about when it comes to competing, so I have brought a good few books by Chris Aceto I have learned a hell of alot about nurtition and dieting from that guy. I'm 5" 11" and currently at 17 stone 4 and 23% bodyfat Could you have a rough guess what weight I would be when I compete. Thanks mate J- man

LeeB

23% this far out is quite a lot mate. 17st 04 = 242lbs.. so 20% of that is... 48lb... but at a guess if you wanted to get down to say 6% bodyfat... that means you have 17% to lose... which is.. 41lb... over 12 weeks is.. 3.5lb a week.. wich in reality is do-able but is cutting things very fine...

we cant really guess your body weight without seeing you or photos of you... but if your 17st now youll definitely not be small on stage... going by the calculations above...which i can guarantee are not accurate.. that would put you at: 201lb @ 6% bodyfat.. which is about 14 and a half stone. (14 and a half stone in good nick is BIG)

have you ever used clomid for that long whilst dieting before? it can fcuk with your mind lol

if there are any real bodybuilding gyms close to you, there may be someone local who is experienced and usually will be happy to help and have a look over you each week. most eperienced bodybuilders are happy to help out people who are eager to learn and do well!