All setup for my 1st cycle

smurf

after reading almost this entire board lol. Asking loads of questions, i finally decided to go with a 10wk Test-e cycle, im looking at 500mg (2ml) a week. I have Nolva n Clomid on hand ready for my PCT.


The plan is:
10wks (may increase it to 12wk) Test-E x 2cc per week

1 week after last injection I will start my PCT:
Clomid: Day one, 300mg
Day 2-10, 100mg
Day 11-21, 50mg
Nolvadex: Day 1-14, 40mg
Day 15-30, 20mg

I drink over 3litres of water a day normally so no change there.
I have read on how to inject, but just incase I have my brother with me who has injected for years. So he can advice me too.

What im after from this cycle, is to gain muscle, hopefully drop a little fat. I was going to run decca too. but went for the simple approach to narrow any potential problems.

My diet has been increase to 2gm per lb of body weight but ive left my carbs the same. Carry a bit of fat atm and hope to burn some. Im eating every 3 hours as ive done for along time. U guys helped me with the diet

I weigh 95kg (210lb) and im 6ft tall
Ive been working out since i was 23 (weighed 75kg) and im now 27.


Basically im ready to go, just the daunting task of actually sticking myself for the 1st time is in my way.

any advice would be appreciated, e.g. im thinking of including tribulus as part of my PCT.

LeeB

advice - train hard.. take no prisoners in the gym, dont miss any meals, get enough rest!

and enjoy the growing mate!

smurf

well, i did it. I had my 1st injection last night.
let me brother actually do it. I basically just listened and learned
He followed the same guide that I had printed out.

Couldnt feel a thing, well apart from a slight cold tingle that was hardly noticable :

Feels abit wierd mentally atm, knowing wots in my ass cheek. my brother said it was the same for him and it will pass

Ruggerbugger

Congratulations on being on of the few people who has managed to get off on the right foot with a good cycle and obviously enough research to stop you damaging yourself!

I like the look of this first time cycle.

Tribulus can help with your natural test production. It seems to take a while to build up and kick in so I'd start taking it around week 6. Also, the recommended doses on the sides of some tribulus supps are too low IMO. I'd go for 3grams a day.

I've only ever used Nolvadex (dosing looks fine) so can't really comment on the Clomid. Any particular reason your using both?

400-500 grams protein should be ok. But don't skimp on the carbs or you'll have trouble taking advantage of the test and protein. When you have your post workout shake I think you can afford to take a lot of carbs too. I go with 50 grams whey protein and 50 grams waxy maize starch in my post work out shake and I have a glass of fruit juice.

smurf

thnx for the advice fellas

Im using clomid + nolva as ive read on this board and a few others, it works better than just using 1. So thought id go with the mass's as ive never done it b4. Im basically trying to keep it as safe as possible. As with u guys, im taking the use of AAS very seriously.


So hows best to increase my carbs? Generally I eat a banana are whack some oats in a shake?

RuggerBugger: wont tribulus effect the enanthate like ive read nolva and clomid are suppose to do, if taken whilst on the cycle?

also i use 40gm of dextrose in my PWO shake is this ok, as im not how i get hold of "waxy maize".

Ruggerbugger

Oats are a great way to get complex carbs in at any time of the day. If you don't mind it in your PWO shake, go for it. I use waxy maize starch because it is also a complex carb (low impact on insulin), but unlike most complex carbs it is absorbed extremely rapidly so it gets a lot of carbs into my system without giving me a huge insulin spike by itslef. An increase in insulin post workout is a good thing as insulin is good for driving nutrients into muscle. But... too much insulin and sugar in your blood makes your body want to send a bunch of sugar to your fat cells.

A bit of fast acting carbs (like dextrose, or fructose from fruit)PWO will get your insulin levels up while complex carbs will provide a long lasting supply of carbs to refuel your muscle cells without making your body want to grow your fat cells. 40 grams dextrose would be enough simple carbs but I think it'd be a good idea to get 40 grams of complex carbs in PWO too.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the test affecting the test-E. If you provide some more info I'll try and help. Tribulus works in a different way to SERMs like Clomid and Nolva. Tribulus stimulates your brain to release more LH (luetinizing hormone) which in turn will cause your balls to grow back and for more natural test to be released.



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smurf

well ive had 3 injections now, bro did the 1st and ive done the other 2 myself. Nowt to it really, just the guts to put enough pressure on to get the needle through the skin lol.
My next injection is on saturday. just wondering when im likely to notice the effects? ive read its usually about 4 weeks in?

sitries

ur weight will start creeping up from the end of week 2. as long as ur eating a shit load of carbs and protein. maybe its different with some ppl but that how it went for me on the same cycle ur on. si

smurf

yup started to notice the weight increase and my strength is alot better

funbos

it will really work after 4th week. i would add some prop at 11 and 12 th week of your cycle and statr pct few days after last prop shot. Btw get hcg for your pct and dont take clomid becuse your cycle is really light. And why you dont kick start your cycle with dbols or prop ( i thin if you will do it you will do it with dbols becuse lot of newbies afraid of injections ) good luck with your cycle