turnibol vs var. or is there something better?

sitries

im looking to gain a bit of lean mass whilst reducing bodyfat for the summer. i was thinking that turnibol would be best. what kind of gains can i expect to get from 6 weeks on turnibol vs 6weeks of var? iv used var before at the end of a test cycle, i noticed increased vascularity and good strength increases.

will i still gain lean mass if im trying to reduce calories, is it just as simply as eating more protein and rducing teh carbs significantly? cheers

razg

Var will burn fat and harden you up more, OT is more anabolic though. Take your pick...

Nick500

TBOL is nice,

why not do 6 weeks prop tren winnie, youve injected before...?

sitries

iv injected before but just fancied a cheap oral only cycle this time around. i dnt wana get into anything too heavy. i thiink il go with the turnibol as its cheaper than var and will give me a few more results. which manufacturer is best for turnibol, what dosage should i go with?

also has any1 on here used it alone before and what were there experiences with it.

Nick500

i have used it alone,

was nice at 60mg but people do it up to 100mg with no problems. i'd suggest 60 for 4 weeks then 80 for 2 if the sides are fine. quite a bit of liver support shit too.

sitries

nice 1 nick. which brand is best? appert from liv support, did uuse any other ancillaries. i unerstand that gyno wont be a problem so will it just be as simple as PCT, no nolva to be used during the cycle due to not aromatisation.

also has any1 heard of the DVAR stack. dbol and var, meant to be pretty good, but obviosly two orals t the same time is a bit harsh on the liver. i was recomended to do 20mg dbol and 50mg var. doubt il do it tho.

crazycal1

i`d just go with a tbol/dbol 6 weeker bud.
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