Been recommended a cycle

smurf

Hey all,

Been down to my local supplier today. Had a big discussion about a first injection cycle. I mentioned Test Enanthate cycle thats on this forum. he wasnt very impressed claiming Test E wasnt very good as a first cycle, he also said 10-12 weeks was too long. His recommendation was to do a short 6 week course of:

Week 1-2 : Sus @ 250-500mg per week
Week 3-4 : Deca @ 300-400mg per week
Week 5-6 : Tren @ 50-70mg EOD

Any thoughts on this as its different to all the beginner cycles ive come across

Ali M

All i can say mate, is there are some top guy's on here who compete and look the bollock's, i myself always look at the person im taking the advise off, my current stack was recommended to me from a top guy on here and his condition and knowledge is awsome. i will not mention names as it's not fair, if you check the threads you will see for yourself.

Listen to the guy's on here they are a good bunch and are looking out for you.

Ali M

p.s. personally i dont understand why the swop over from sus to decca then from decca to tren, it makes no sence to me. If it were me taking no advise from anyone id be inclined to run 2 steroids together for 8 weeks min, like a sus and decca together for the 8 weeks. However, i listen to the guys on here and take there advise and tend to go with it as they are in the condition that im working towards.

andyboro

i was suggested something similar by a guy when i first started reading up (less the tren) and i think if you have a read around you'll find, as i did thats not a very good cycle at all... stick with test-e IMO

Rianabol

Hi Mate

Yes not a good cycle at all, run an 8 weeker of 500mg sus and 400mg deca, thats should pack on some size for u,

R

sitries

that cycle sounds pretty rubbish tome mate. iv been reading up on gear for over 2 years now and have never heard of anything like this, especially for a begginer. no need to be complicated for a 1st cycle. one compound, for example test e, will pack you on 2stone with a good diet. its tried and tested, and it worked the bollox for me. save adding the decca for your next cycle.

LeeB

the doseages are about right.

the total time on is ok for first try.

id also say hes getting you to try a few things so that either:
- you see how you respond
- you buy more multidose bottles and spend more money (maybe hes not selling multidoses tho! just thought id better point it out tho!

the fact that hes changing gear is good... but the active time each thing is in your system is not enough to get gains in my opinion. (not at those small doseages - ive heard such short times be considered where MASSIVE doses were used!)

also its a good point that 12 weeks of enan some would consider to not be a great course as will shut your bodys own test production down well. but youll find this point is disagreed with by some people too... which is why we encourage people to learn and make their own decisions. - personally as a first timer id say go for sust as it may ease shutdown problems.

also, did your source mention pct??? (nolva? clomid? hcg?) or the fact that you may need to have anti-estrogens to hand?? if hes worth his weight he should have informed and educated you on this!!

as its your first cycle id reccomend the following, its roughly what your source has suggested but adjusting to what i think would give you best results.

weeks 1-6 = sust & decca (doseages dependant on yourself)
weeks 7-9 = tren ace (every 3rd day - again doesages are your choice)
week 10 = begin PCT

its a very simple cycle but as long as your gear is legit and diet and training good youll get good results!

Neil R

Personally, I disagree with using test in the first ever cycle. I feel it is far more beneficial to get the full benefits of the less androgenic compounds before upping the androgen count. You also need far less ancillary substances to counter the posible side affects from test.
I think Lee may have hit it on the head about the dealer wanting you to buy more.
The first thing I would ask would be how consistant are you with your diet and training?? And how long you've been training?
Then I'd want to know what you want to achieve from your stack, Is it out and out size? Lose fat & maintain muscle? Gain lean muscle and minimal fat? Then i'd want to know your bodyweight & bodyfat percentage? As ALL drugs are bodyweight dependant.

To many questions need to be addressed before recommending anything!

colie

10 weeks of test is a great start for anyone... take pct and see how much u can hold.

at least u will be able to see how test works for u...without the interferance of other drugs

Bodyworks

your guy is screwing you. all he needs to do is give you legit sust. the deca and tren can be cooking oil, and you will never know. of course, maybe he has more scruples than that, but he could very easily pull this, he wouldn't be the first. just opt for 1 compound. whatever it is, 6 weeks tops.

smurf

wow lots of feedback here, cheers fellas.

U may have a point on the cost, as the tren is supplied in bottles which greatly increases the price.
His views on PCT are not very good either, he says use tribulus and if needed use nolva and/or clomid

My diet in on this forum and was fine tuned by u guys. Basically consists of 7 meals starting at 7:30 in morning and ending at 11:30 at night. protien in each and ive started to reduce the carb intake later in the day round tea time. Udos oil, multi vitamins and creatine are all part of the daily diet.
My weight is 14.5 stone which i think is 92kg. My body fat ive never had checked, but im definatly not fat but would like to drop abit. Been working out for years (5-6 years) but change my routine and became alot more focused about 2-3 years ago. My aim would be to increase lean muscle size and secondly if possible drop some fat.