Feedback on next cycle please

spider-man

I shall be starting this in 3-weeks:

Days 1-21 : Dbol 50mg ed
Days 1-29 : Sust 250 2ml ew
Days 5-33 : Tren Depot 100 2ml ew
Days 15-64 : GH 4iu ed
Days 22-42 : Oxymeth 50mg ed
Days 36-63 : Test Prop 100 1ml e/2days
Days 43-62 : Var 60mg ed

Also, should I use Prov, Nolva, Adex at any point during?

Rianabol

Mate

Thats a lot of gear IMO plus too many orals, for ur liver to handle. Why are u taking oxy straight after dbol.
How many cycles have u done before and what is ur current stats? Seems to haphazard, Keep things simple, Why not simply run Dbol and sus for instance. Remember more is NOT better when it comes to gear, just more sides.

Weeks 1-6 25-30mg dbol
weeks 1-8 500-750mg sus per week
Weeks 9-11 100mg prop eod
PCT

spider-man

This will be my 7th cycle. I am currently 35, 15st 10lb, 5ft 8in. My last cycle was as follows:

weeks 1-4 : Testabol Enanthate 250 @ 1ml every 5 days
weeks 1-4 : Boldabol 200 @ 1ml every 5 days
weeks 1-4 : Dianabol @ 30mg ed
weeks 1-9 : Tamoxifen @ 20mg ed
weeks 5-9 : Oxandrolone @ 60mg ed
weeks 5-9 : Proviron @ 25mg ed
weeks 6-9 : Testabol Propionate 100 @ 1ml eod
weeks 6-9 : Trenabol 75 @ 1ml eod
weeks 11-17 : Clenbuterol
weeks 10-14 Clomid @ 50mg ed

I started at 14st 7lb. Went as heavy as 16st 2lb. I've been off now for 10-weeks. My weight dropped to 15st 4lb however has now stabilised around 15st 10lb. Strength went through the roof. Dead lift before 180kg 6-reps now 290kg 4-reps. Bench before 120kg 5-reps now 180kg 5-reps. Squat before 160kg 8-reps now 240kg 6-reps.

Nick500

Thats some SERIOUS strength gains... perhaps you weren't anywhere near your natural limit before the cycle?

LeeB

its alot but i dont think its a huge amount. yes you are switching from dbol to oxy... but your only switching same mg/mg.... so its basically 50mg for 6 weeks which in reality aint too bad. altho i personally think oxy is sh*t - id prefer stromba.

think the GH will be waste for that short period. save your cash!

and get your PCT written down.

Ali M

Agree with Lee Gh is will be a waste of time for a short period, ive just brought a ten week supply 4iu's a day. i hear any less than 8 weeks then theres no point to it as it only start to see results from it after week 3.

If your using GH then please get loads of info on it first.

Ali M

one thing mate why are u using the proviron in weeks 5 to 9, i know it does a bit more than the Tamoxifen but basically does the same thing.

Neil R

Growth will work as soon as you start using it. Its just that the actuall gains accrued as so small then you only see a small difference.
The theory that it doesn't start to work til after 8 weeks is completely nonsensical. The guy is ruinning it for 7 weeks and it will make a difference. A small one bu nevertheless it will have an effect. Its not like your body says 'RIGHT I'VE BEEN ON THIS STUFF FOR 8 WEEKS NOW, BETTER START DOING SOMETHING NOW' Growth is growth, it starts to do its thing as soon as you put it in. In medicine its usually used for 30 day periods for burns treatment and it works. I think the problem is that people expect too much from growth. Its no magic bullet, but it will help get past plateaus. If you are not competeing then thats why I would say save your money.
Also Proviron doesn't do the same thing as Nolvadex, Nolva's block estrogen receptors in breast tissue. Proviron prevent the aromatase enzyme from converting test to estrogen.
I'd run the proviron (or A/dex) from start of week 4 till end of week 8.

Finally, i'd agree with LeeB, drop the Oxy, the potential for incuring side effect is too great, much better off using stromba's.

Everything else appears to be okay. But as Lee also said, make sure you've got you PCT and Detox in place, coz you'll need it.

LeeB

with regard the GH, if i can clear up my point of view on this. as neil says... it works from day 1..... however i feel anything less than 12 weeks then a price/results ratio is a bit sh*t and generally most people use GH cos they think it will turn them into ronnie coleman.... so unless someone is seriously competing on a national level i would always advise saving the money cos unless they are lean enough to start with they will feel they have piss poor results for alot of money. be stricter with your diet and treat yourself to a new plasma tv!!

Ali M

Its all about money, money puts you at a level. if you can afford a porsche u buy one if not then you stick with buying a mondeo. I think the same applies to gear. Ive just brought some GH and basically brought some because A) the little gains made are good and stay with you and B) i can afford it. I think 99% of bodybuilders would use Gh if money were not an option.