Have a Squint at New Cycle

tether10 · 13-01-2007, 06:07 PM

Hi Guys, following advice from Lee B, Extreme and Neil R Ive decided to go ahead and use the Apex EQ in my pending cycle.

Have a Squint bellow and let me know what you all think.
It goes without saying diet etc is under control as is PCT.

weeks 1-4 load up with SUS (paki) at 750 a wk (mon, wed, frid)
400 Apex EQ
weeks 5-8 Test Enan (Geopharm) 500 (mon, Thu)
400 Apex Eq
weeks 9-12 Testex (Prop) 500 wk split over 3 days (mon, wed, frid)
Whiny 50mg ED Generic Lab TAbs

weeks 13-15 pct using clomid and hcg

**Neil R** · 13-01-2007, 07:45 PM

Looks good, if you don't grow from that then summats defo wrong !!

Only addition i'd make is to add a bit of arimadex in there at 0.5mg per day, just to guard against aromatisation of the test. And maybe half the amount of winnie. Other than that its a very well put together stack, apply the same attention to diet, training and resting and you can't fail.

Make sure you keep us all posted on your progress too!!!

tether10 · 13-01-2007, 07:52 PM

Cheers Neil

I will b sure 2 keep u informed of my progress M8.

TAm

**LeeB** · 13-01-2007, 08:09 PM

sound course mate!

tether10 · 13-01-2007, 09:33 PM

Cheer's Buddy. UR Input Very much appreciated, as is that of Extreme and Neil.
Will B startin new course in a couple of week's (gonna have to wait a while due to work commitments) will keep all u guys informed of my progress and stick a thread up once I am up and runnin.
Thanx again,

TAM

ratbastard · 14-01-2007, 03:41 PM

Am I the only one having trouble interpreting your cycle?!

Is below what you plan? (sorry.. my brain tends to function less on Sundays

)

1 - 4 Sust 750mg/wk
1 - 12 EQ 400mg/wk
5 - 8 Enanthate 500mg/wk
9 - 12 Prop 500mg/wk
9 - 12 Winny 50mg/ED
13 - 15 PCT

tether10 · 14-01-2007, 08:46 PM

Just about M8 other than the EQ is only bein run for the initial 8 weeks.

Other than that you are right on the money.

How'z it lookin to now Rat'z

ratbastard · 14-01-2007, 09:15 PM

EQ should be run longer than 10 weeks, preferably 12 weeks.

Check this thread , good info on frontloading

If you want to frontload, I'd do 1000mg test E in week 1 then carry on as normal, or use a dbol or adrol kickstart.

Personally I would do

1-4 Dbol 30-40mg/ed
1-12 Test E 600-750mg/wk
1-12 EQ 500-600mg/wk
9-13 Winny 50mg/ED

you can throw the prop in weeks 12 - 14, then start PCT straight after.

I'd also run l-dex @ .25mg/ED throughout cycle, you could also throw Nolva in at 10mg/ED to be extra safe.

**LeeB** · 15-01-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastard

EQ should be run longer than 10 weeks, preferably 12 weeks.

Check this thread , good info on frontloading

If you want to frontload, I'd do 1000mg test E in week 1 then carry on as normal, or use a dbol or adrol kickstart.

Personally I would do

1-4 Dbol 30-40mg/ed
1-12 Test E 600-750mg/wk
1-12 EQ 500-600mg/wk
9-13 Winny 50mg/ED

you can throw the prop in weeks 12 - 14, then start PCT straight after.

I'd also run l-dex @ .25mg/ED throughout cycle, you could also throw Nolva in at 10mg/ED to be extra safe.

i doubt the 2 week extra on EQ is going to make a massive difference???

also, altho hes not frontloading as such, he doesnt HAVE to, theres also some short acting test in the sust so technically it is kicking in straight away.

ratbastard · 15-01-2007, 07:52 PM

EQ has a reputation for taking a long time to produce results, usually about 6 weeks, so generally it's run for atleast 12 weeks.

I didnt say he had to front load! I only offered some advice on the subject.
The short esters in Sust are the prop (@ about 30mg) and phenylprop (@ about 60mg); personally, I think it's a bad choice for loading/kickstart. Straight prop @ 500mg/wk would be much better.

Just my 2pence lads..

13-01-2007, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
tether10 Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Location: glasgow Posts: 23 Rep Power:	Have a Squint at New Cycle Hi Guys, following advice from Lee B, Extreme and Neil R Ive decided to go ahead and use the Apex EQ in my pending cycle. Have a Squint bellow and let me know what you all think. It goes without saying diet etc is under control as is PCT. weeks 1-4 load up with SUS (paki) at 750 a wk (mon, wed, frid) 400 Apex EQ weeks 5-8 Test Enan (Geopharm) 500 (mon, Thu) 400 Apex Eq weeks 9-12 Testex (Prop) 500 wk split over 3 days (mon, wed, frid) Whiny 50mg ED Generic Lab TAbs weeks 13-15 pct using clomid and hcg

13-01-2007, 07:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Neil R Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 689 Rep Power:	Looks good, if you don't grow from that then summats defo wrong !! Only addition i'd make is to add a bit of arimadex in there at 0.5mg per day, just to guard against aromatisation of the test. And maybe half the amount of winnie. Other than that its a very well put together stack, apply the same attention to diet, training and resting and you can't fail. Make sure you keep us all posted on your progress too!!! ______________________ APPLIED KNOWLEDGE, IS POWER!!! The real challenge is to be yourself in a world that wants you to be someone else!!

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ratbastard Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bristol Posts: 10 Rep Power:	EQ has a reputation for taking a long time to produce results, usually about 6 weeks, so generally it's run for atleast 12 weeks. I didnt say he had to front load! I only offered some advice on the subject. The short esters in Sust are the prop (@ about 30mg) and phenylprop (@ about 60mg); personally, I think it's a bad choice for loading/kickstart. Straight prop @ 500mg/wk would be much better. Just my 2pence lads.. Last edited by ratbastard; 15-01-2007 at 07:54 PM.

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13-01-2007, 07:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
tether10 Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Location: glasgow Posts: 23 Rep Power:	Cheers Neil I will b sure 2 keep u informed of my progress M8. TAm

13-01-2007, 09:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
tether10 Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Location: glasgow Posts: 23 Rep Power:	Cheer's Buddy. UR Input Very much appreciated, as is that of Extreme and Neil. Will B startin new course in a couple of week's (gonna have to wait a while due to work commitments) will keep all u guys informed of my progress and stick a thread up once I am up and runnin. Thanx again, TAM

14-01-2007, 03:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
ratbastard Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bristol Posts: 10 Rep Power:	Am I the only one having trouble interpreting your cycle?! Is below what you plan? (sorry.. my brain tends to function less on Sundays ) 1 - 4 Sust 750mg/wk 1 - 12 EQ 400mg/wk 5 - 8 Enanthate 500mg/wk 9 - 12 Prop 500mg/wk 9 - 12 Winny 50mg/ED 13 - 15 PCT

14-01-2007, 08:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
tether10 Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Location: glasgow Posts: 23 Rep Power:	Just about M8 other than the EQ is only bein run for the initial 8 weeks. Other than that you are right on the money. How'z it lookin to now Rat'z

14-01-2007, 09:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
ratbastard Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bristol Posts: 10 Rep Power:	EQ should be run longer than 10 weeks, preferably 12 weeks. Check this thread , good info on frontloading If you want to frontload, I'd do 1000mg test E in week 1 then carry on as normal, or use a dbol or adrol kickstart. Personally I would do 1-4 Dbol 30-40mg/ed 1-12 Test E 600-750mg/wk 1-12 EQ 500-600mg/wk 9-13 Winny 50mg/ED you can throw the prop in weeks 12 - 14, then start PCT straight after. I'd also run l-dex @ .25mg/ED throughout cycle, you could also throw Nolva in at 10mg/ED to be extra safe.