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Old 12-12-2006, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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After a lengthy cycle i am now about to embark on using igf1 as part of my pct protocol. In a word it is a fantastic compound by allowing the maintainence of gains from cycle and staying relatively lean to boot. I will use 60mcg preworkout and 40mcg on non-training days. And unlike its cousin insulin u dont have hypoglycemic issues. It is definately worth using if u want to keep and enhance ur gains from a previous cycle. Moreover when u hit the gear again, it will mature the new muscle cells that were created during pct. Hence more size next time round.

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Old 13-12-2006, 04:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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although most of what you have written is correct some is not...

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And unlike its cousin insulin u don't have hypoglycemic issues
for some IGF-1LR3 does cause hypo attacks just like insulin does as it depends on how your body deals with it...

plus when using IGF-1LR3 during your PCT you will definitely maintain a lot more of your muscle gains than a standard PCT but it must be stressed because IGF-1LR3 does not have any impact on HPTA you must follow your normal PCT protocol as well....

the normal gain for any IGF-1LR3 cycle when used along side AAS is approx 2-3lbs of lean muscle so this will be less when used during PCT..

IGF-1LR3 is a fantastic research peptide but in my opinion is not something that should be used by those who have little or no experience with anabolics....

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Old 13-12-2006, 06:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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well put pscarb.

imo, it's over rated and over priced. it does work but it's not the holy grail some make it out to be. useful, yes. necessary, no.
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IGF-1LR3 is a fantastic research peptide but in my opinion is not something that should be used by those who have little or no experience with anabolics....
Why would that be? If it doesn't effect the hpta surley its a safer bet?

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as just like GH it will not give the mass that most look for like i said in my last post you are looking at max 2-3lbs for a 4-5 week cycle and the more frequently you use it this will decrease the problem i have found with newbies to steroids is that they are in a rush to gain muscle/weight so the issue i have with newbies or guys with little experience with steroids is that they will jack up the dose in a vain effort to gain more.....

Also you will get better returns after your body is used to growing hence with 2-3+ years of decent steroid use.....just like when guys use GH for the first time to build MASS they are dissapointed as most will be with IGF-1LR3...

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my own opinion.. knowing very little about the technical ins and outs of this....

unless someone is seriously pushing for a top 3 placing in a national show what is the point of spending what will work out as thousands on GH, slin, IGF??

im not saying these compounds are useless... but if i can grow on chicken and sust.. and get cut on turkey and tren.... then im acheiving my goals!!

for me spending so much money to acheive my goals would probably leave me hating bodybuilding!! and my family hating me! something for the future maybe!

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Thanks for getting back to the question guys. Yeah I see your point. When I first started traing I expected to be massive within a 5-6months. 2 years now and i've made good progress but I dont think I will ever want to juice. I just dont like the idea of messing with hormones that can effect your mood! but igf may be a option. compared to juice the gains are poor but it would be good to put 2-3lbs on in a month, better than i can do natural!

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but that is not every time you run it and that is the high end of the scale....

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