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18-09-2006, 08:48 AM
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| Making Progress  Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 127 Rep Power:  |  ?Is post-cycle-therapy always needed..? ..i've read an artical that said pct isn't always needed, especially if you're on low dosage. I'll try and find the artical and post it. but any thoughts....or is it a prerequisite that pct is done and is part of your cycle? |
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18-09-2006, 09:20 AM
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon  Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,836 Rep Power:  | LOL.... YES. even a low dosage can and will "shut you down"! i really dont get some peoples thinking on this... so many people i know (who to be honest know shag all about bodybuilding) try to avoid running pct.... yet they ensure that they spend hundreds on exhausts and induction kits and srpings etc. for their cars to ensure its at its peak...... but making sure your own body is fully healthy and working correctly.... LOL NO NEED FOR THAT!! I MEAN, MORE GEAR IN A FEW WEEKS SO ILL BE BACK TO NORMAL THEN.... by the way lee.... i dont seem to be gaining at the minute....??? YOU DONT SAY!! ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk |
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18-09-2006, 09:35 AM
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| Super Moderator Super Moderator  Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 986 Rep Power: | you will normally find that guys think that by using low doses of Anabolic Steroids over a short period of 4-6 weeks are trying to kid themselves into believing they are not really using Steroids because they are misguided into thinking the steroids are not interferring with their own natural test levels...... This is just not true any amount of Anabolics will have some effect on the HPTA the amount of suppression involved is individual. alot of guys will say "i don't need PCT because i only use 25mg of d/bol and my nuts are still big" the sad truth is no one can tell if you are suppressed until you have bloods done almost all of these guys have never had blood test carried out. in my oppinion mainly through my 17/18yrs of experiance PCT should always be carried out and planned when you design your AAS course. PCT's can be complicated but can also be as simple as - 40mg ed for 7 days followed by 20mg ed for 21 days this is started 10 - 14 days after a longer ester steroid is injected (enthanate/cyp/deca) or 1 - 3 days after a short ester steroid is injected (Prop/Tren/D-bol) carring out a cycle of anabolics and not planning a PCT is just lazy.... ______________________ www.omegalabs.co.uk http://www.extremenutrition.co.uk/at...ough/index.php |
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18-09-2006, 09:39 AM
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| Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 986 Rep Power: | great minds think alike Lee  ______________________ www.omegalabs.co.uk http://www.extremenutrition.co.uk/at...ough/index.php |
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18-09-2006, 09:47 AM
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| Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 127 Rep Power: | thanks guys, fast work and thank you!! O.K. then this is the history. At the moment i'm in the middle of an eight week Nandrolone Decanoate only cycle, taking 4ml per week, 2ml in each thigh, everything i'd read had said that this was the lower end of the dose scale. My gains are better than i'd expected, i've gone from 74kg to 81kg with little water retention, a few spots on my back - but nothing major, no moodiness, my strength gains have increased nicely, but i've never been a really heavy lifter, but i'm happy with what i'm doing. I'm not really looking for huge mass gains, i was just hoping for a modest increase leaving me some nice gains in both muscle size and strength... if i can keep what i've got this far, i'll be more than happy! Can you suggest what pct i should get sorted, i've got four weeks to get my shit together....so to speak. thanks in advance.....be gentle. |
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18-09-2006, 12:23 PM
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| Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 145 Rep Power: | never used AAS, but i read evey article i come across on the subject. Every1 of them stated, you should never start a cycle without having everything you need 1st. so im guessing you've been bad. Some1 will probably post advice, seeing as ur health is at risk, the guys that can answer the question are probably busy atm |
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18-09-2006, 12:40 PM
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,836 Rep Power: | nandrolone (decca) only cycles are not the best mate... mainly due to the fact that they will shut you down good and proper! lol one question.. not that its really relevant... but im not sure how clued up you are... you say your taking 4ml per week... some decca is 100mg/ml and some is 200mg/ml... so you could be using 400mg per week or 800mg per week! do you know what mg you are using? i always run a very simple clomid only pct. basically becasue i know it works for me and i dont suffer bad sides - ok my wife may disagree lol: (pscarb has more knowledge of PCT so he will prob advise otherwise) Day 1 - 300mg clomid (6 tabs) Day 2 - 200mg clomid (4 tabs) Days 3-12 - 100mg clomid (2 tabs) Days 13-21 - 50mg clomid (1 tab) ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk |
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18-09-2006, 12:53 PM
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,836 Rep Power: | so thats 400mg per week! just checking as sometimes people dont understand the difference between mg's and ml's ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk |
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