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Ali M · 15-09-2006, 10:01 AM

Im slightly confused with PCT as people have different views on it's use and whats involved, some say nolva every day some say not, and recommend either 2 wks into the cycle or at the end. HCG some say whilst on the cycle some say at the end. Also Clomid has been mentioned in the same sentence as PCT, Nolva & HCG.

In the past my PCT has been 25mg nolva throughout cycle from day one to the end, with HCG at the end. (i now understand that HCG at the end depends on your last type of steroid used, if this is long acting then PCT would have no effect)

Any help to clear this up would help, ps i have looked back into the stickies on this site and this is wherte some confusion is as the info varies.

Thanks

**LeeB** · 15-09-2006, 10:30 AM

ali

nolva is used for 2 different reasons:

1 - during cycle as an anti estorgen (to prevent gyno)

2 - at end of cycle as PCT (to help switch your bodys production of test back to normal)

these are two totally different uses of the same thing. running nolva during cycle is NOT PCT.

as mentioned above PCT is basically meant to help your body being producing testosterone naturally again after a course of steroids.. so it is run at the end of teh course..

when PCT should start at the end of the course depends on what type of gear you are using... i.e. fast acting gear requires PCT a few days after... slow acting is generally 3-4 weeks after last shot...

there are 3 main drugs used as PCT.. nolva, clomid, hcg.. they can be ran alone or in conjunction with one another... each requiring different dosing schedules... some people also run HCG during cycle to help prevent the bodys natural test production from shutting down in teh first place!

i always reccomend clomid for PCT at a schedule of day 1 = 6 tabs, day 2 = 4 tabs, days 3-12 = 2 tabs, days 13- 22 = 1 tab.

others will reccomend using HCG alongside or nolva instead of clomid.. but this works for me and others so i see no need to do anything different!

Ali M · 15-09-2006, 11:55 AM

Cool. thanks Lee, i understand better now, ive read a few postings that PScarb has left and he has a very interesting take, if pscard reads this i would be very interested in your views regards PCT after cycle or things like HCG during or mid cycle.

Many thanks

15-09-2006, 10:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ali M Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power:	PCT Im slightly confused with PCT as people have different views on it's use and whats involved, some say nolva every day some say not, and recommend either 2 wks into the cycle or at the end. HCG some say whilst on the cycle some say at the end. Also Clomid has been mentioned in the same sentence as PCT, Nolva & HCG. In the past my PCT has been 25mg nolva throughout cycle from day one to the end, with HCG at the end. (i now understand that HCG at the end depends on your last type of steroid used, if this is long acting then PCT would have no effect) Any help to clear this up would help, ps i have looked back into the stickies on this site and this is wherte some confusion is as the info varies. Thanks

15-09-2006, 10:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,984 Rep Power:	ali nolva is used for 2 different reasons: 1 - during cycle as an anti estorgen (to prevent gyno) 2 - at end of cycle as PCT (to help switch your bodys production of test back to normal) these are two totally different uses of the same thing. running nolva during cycle is NOT PCT. as mentioned above PCT is basically meant to help your body being producing testosterone naturally again after a course of steroids.. so it is run at the end of teh course.. when PCT should start at the end of the course depends on what type of gear you are using... i.e. fast acting gear requires PCT a few days after... slow acting is generally 3-4 weeks after last shot... there are 3 main drugs used as PCT.. nolva, clomid, hcg.. they can be ran alone or in conjunction with one another... each requiring different dosing schedules... some people also run HCG during cycle to help prevent the bodys natural test production from shutting down in teh first place! i always reccomend clomid for PCT at a schedule of day 1 = 6 tabs, day 2 = 4 tabs, days 3-12 = 2 tabs, days 13- 22 = 1 tab. others will reccomend using HCG alongside or nolva instead of clomid.. but this works for me and others so i see no need to do anything different! ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

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15-09-2006, 11:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ali M Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power:	Cool. thanks Lee, i understand better now, ive read a few postings that PScarb has left and he has a very interesting take, if pscard reads this i would be very interested in your views regards PCT after cycle or things like HCG during or mid cycle. Many thanks