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tedjoc · 04-09-2006, 03:00 PM

I want to start a steriod cycle but I am not overly keen on injecting. Are orals just as good, if so which ones are best to use? Also is growth hormone any good, and whats it called, cheers for any help

mr_o_dub · 06-09-2006, 09:34 AM

orals are more toxic on the liver i think it is better to use injections as well as orals

Ali M · 06-09-2006, 10:07 AM

Gee! 1st cycle and already talking of GH, this is for very experianced bodybuilders.

GH is not for you at this stage, however, if you ever find your self competing then maybe GH will be something you will want to use.

Ali M

Nick500 · 06-09-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tedjoc

I want to start a steriod cycle but I am not overly keen on injecting. Are orals just as good, if so which ones are best to use? Also is growth hormone any good, and whats it called, cheers for any help

tedjoc, whats your current diet and training regime?

ignore growth hormone....

tedjoc · 06-09-2006, 01:42 PM

My diet is quite high protein, low fat at the minute. One problem I always have with my diet is lack of vegtables and fruit, so I take vitamins to supplement. My training routine is normally
Monday: Chest
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Arms
Thurdsay: Shoulders
Friday: Legs
Saturday: off
Sunday: Core
Each evening I do around 30-60 minutes of cv, normally aiming to do 500 cals or above

Nick500 · 06-09-2006, 02:13 PM

read this http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

funbos · 07-09-2006, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedjoc

I want to start a steriod cycle but I am not overly keen on injecting. Are orals just as good, if so which ones are best to use? Also is growth hormone any good, and whats it called, cheers for any help

about only oral cycles yes there is a few stacks taht are wery good

but like it was written before "its very toxic for liver" but othervise you can make a cycle with gear which is not especialy heavy for liver (tbol,undestor ( oral test ), primo )...

but like about IMO 98% of peoples who first time will take roids you can take dbol only cycle or better tbol( but its much more expensive )

Nick500 · 07-09-2006, 09:54 AM

i'd say tbol + test undecanate (andriol) is a good oral first cycle..

Nick

crazycal1 · 07-09-2006, 11:28 AM

oral results will be much less than injectibles-
true they are more toxic,but then thats a bloody good reason for using them prudently and less frequently

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06-09-2006, 09:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
mr_o_dub Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 47 Rep Power:	orals are more toxic on the liver i think it is better to use injections as well as orals

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Ali M Banned Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 898 Rep Power:	Gee! 1st cycle and already talking of GH, this is for very experianced bodybuilders. GH is not for you at this stage, however, if you ever find your self competing then maybe GH will be something you will want to use. Ali M

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tedjoc Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oxford Posts: 23 Rep Power:	My diet is quite high protein, low fat at the minute. One problem I always have with my diet is lack of vegtables and fruit, so I take vitamins to supplement. My training routine is normally Monday: Chest Tuesday: Back Wednesday: Arms Thurdsay: Shoulders Friday: Legs Saturday: off Sunday: Core Each evening I do around 30-60 minutes of cv, normally aiming to do 500 cals or above