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Old 16-08-2006, 03:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi guys, im 37. 5'11 and weigh 12 stone, experienced bodybuilder been training now non stop for 12 months. Body fat just around 12% and hoping to reduce this to around 10%.

My diet consists of the following 7.30pm bowl of oats with nuts and raisens mixed in and 1 scoop of whey - 10.30 Myplex carb sense meal replacement drink - 1’00pm lunch chicken breast with basmati rice - 4pm MRP 100% whey protein based meal replacement again minimum carbs - 5pm post workout whey with fast carbs. After workout build and recover drink with extra glutamine, then ill have my tea steak or chicken with carbs - 8pm whey protein on its own, bed time casein drink.

I train 4 times per week Mon (chest, bi’s) Tue (legs) Thu (Back, tri’s) Fri ( Shoulders, bi’s)

I have two courses of roids this year the first been deca and dinobol, the second course was Sus, Deca and Prmios, of course I take nolvadex with all my courses.

Its now been two whole months and im now putting together my next stack any ideas please, I don’t want bloat and looking for quality, don’t want water retention well not much any way.

Any idea as to what to buy. Your help is really appreciated.

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Old 16-08-2006, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Hi alex

I think you probably need to tune up your diet a little bit, probably too many powders and not enough real food.

In terms of steroids, perhaps you would achieve what you are looking for with something like:

test/tren (but tren is a hardcore steroid to do...)

Something involving winnie/masteron might be good also, i've heard of people doing winnie/tbol with test also pre-comp to harden up (and that could be all oral)

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How did you get on with the first two cycles? If they worked, why change them

If you are going for something different, I agree with Nick but I might do a combination of his suggestions and go for the test and some masteron
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Thanks Nick, i use pwders as i really struggle with food, to be honnest mate im happy with a packet of biscuites and chocolate and can of coke. I really struggle to get the quality of food down me of as u can see ive really cleaned up my diet. Some days i eat better.

Regards last 2 stacks i dont feel that i gained a great amount of quality, i would like to reach 12' 1/2 stone quality muscle low body fat. 6 month ago i was 12 stone and reached 12 1/2 and now im back down to 12 (a happy 12 may i add) just like to add better quality and bit more size.

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agree with nick its not more gear you need its more solid food, maybe a few eggs in the morning and replace your shakes with solid food, i reckon you would be surprised at the difference
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got to agree mate.. if your cycles worked then no need to change them... if you want different results then technically you need to put different nutrients into your body!

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I disagree. Eating solid food allows a slower digestion process but when the nutrients hit the bloodstream it doesn't matter how they got there, your muscles cant tell if an argnine was derived from chicken, steak or egg.

Controlling your nutrition is easy when using supplements, it also means missing meals is less likely than when you are supposed to be cooking them all and are short of time or just can't face food.

Why not try equipose, Bioizer Duothate (tren enanth, test enanth blend) and some stromba tabs, GL 50mg are the bizness. This will not cause bloating or water retention but allow strength and size gains while maintaining good condition.

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I disagree. Eating solid food allows a slower digestion process but when the nutrients hit the bloodstream it doesn't matter how they got there, your muscles cant tell if an argnine was derived from chicken, steak or egg.

Controlling your nutrition is easy when using supplements, it also means missing meals is less likely than when you are supposed to be cooking them all and are short of time or just can't face food.

Why not try equipose, Bioizer Duothate (tren enanth, test enanth blend) and some stromba tabs, GL 50mg are the bizness. This will not cause bloating or water retention but allow strength and size gains while maintaining good condition.
i think theres actually 2 points of view to this thread:

1 - are supplements or whole foods better?

2 - what gear will make someone look a certain way?

1.... in my opinion i would say whole foods are better. as long as they are fresh and incorporated within a balanced meal... i.e. is a plain chicken breats better than a meal replacement? probably not... because a plain chicken breast on its own will not have all the nutrients a body needs!... combine the chicken breast with carbs and veg and healthy fats and then yes i woud say its better... BUT in an environment when eating whole foods is not possible.. then supplements are specifically manufactured to provide this alternative! and do it well. everyone is different.. in my experience i repsond to whole foods better... although i have a friend who resoponds to supplements better! we both get good results bulking and cutting!

2..... different types of gear can give you different looks to your body... in basic terms you have bulking gear and hardeners.. bulking gear on the whole tends to give a watery bloated look... whereas hardeners tend to give a leaner harder look to the muscle... BUT if your diet is not constructed right for each specific purpose.. especially hardening/cutting... then you wont get the desired look your after!

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running 2 cycles after only 12 months training is slightly excessive and if you didn't gain on them i can't really see you gaining on the next one unless you change your diet or training.
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running 2 cycles after only 12 months training is slightly excessive and if you didn't gain on them i can't really see you gaining on the next one unless you change your diet or training.
ditto

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