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Old 06-08-2006, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been currently training properly for 2 years with a good diet
I am looking to start my 1st steriod cycle and am looking for some advice.

I dont want to inject or I would do a Test E cycle.....

I am thinking about an oral cycle and which one to start with.
I know Oral only cycles are not too great anyway, but its the way im having to go (cant do needles).

From my research I was thinking this -

Dbol 30mg a day 1-6 weeks
winstrol 50mg a day 3-7 weeks

I would rather just do one 6 week cycle then stop completely and hopefully keep any gains? If anyone knows of a better oral only cycle than Dbol can you let me know please?

advice would be good thanks.
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i would just go with D/bol 30mg per day for 6 weeks making sure you take milk thistle for your kidneys, the addition of another harsh oral like Winny is too much on your first cycle.

make sure you are eating at least 1.5g of protein per LB of body weight...

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thanks carb,

I've read that the gains from Dbol are mostly water and are not very permanent? Am I likely to lose the gains from this cycle in the future?

Ideally I would just like to do 6 weeks of Dbol/Milk thistle then hopefully stop completley? do many people do this, or is it hard to stop after good gains??

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ooops! sorry thought this was my post!!
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Ok Zane you've sort of said what I was going to say anyway.....

I have a high protien diet along with shakes etc....

Are Dbol gains mostly water then? Are they permanent?

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Dbol gains are not mostly water if your diet is clean but you can hold water with D/bol but seeing as muscle is 70% water i don't see the issue....

guys you all seem to be asking about an easy short way to build muscle...there is no easy way D/bol is a decent 1st cycle or you could use T/bol or Anavar which in general won't aromatise as much as D/bol but the gains are not as great...

at the end of the day you need to sort your diet out first before you use AAS

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thanks carb,

I would say my diet and training are good but now i feel i want to try some Dbol tabs and see how i get on....

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you say your diet is OK can you tell us what it is please

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ok here goes......

9am - 3 Scrambled egg's toast, oat cereal or weetabix & protein shake.

10.30am - Tuna cucumber or chicken sandwich.

11.30 ish - Train, protein shake.

1pm - Jacket potatoe cheese & beans, chicken mayo, rice.....

4pm - Sandwich, nutrigrain bar .....

7pm - Boiled potatoes, pasta, chicken breast or fillet, or fish, protein shake.
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you need a meal before bed and i wouldn't of thought you are getting enough protein with your 2 sandwich meals and id have 5 or 6 eggs in the morning instead of 3.
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