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Old 18-07-2006, 09:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi lads i am half way through my first course and i have made good gains in strengh and added a few kilos but i have heard it is very easy to shrink after you finish your course even if your diet is good does anyone no if this is true and if so how to prevent it i was told vit C and vit B12 are good.thanks
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mr_o_dub, do you have proper PCT planned (nolvadex/clomid + other ancillaries)?

What gear are you taking?

Are you planning on taking HCG?

Vit B12 will stimulate the apetite, vit c is always good, vitB12 is normally injected.

Just make sure you eat a hell of a lot and (in my opinion) do no cardio during PCT in order to reduce the amount of cortisol being produced.

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You need to do PCT after you have finished
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I am taking testex winstrol and d bol over eight weeks.I have nolvadex but i have not started them yet i was told to hold off till the last two weeks of the course do you think that is the correct way to take them.What does HGC stand for?What exactly is PCT?
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no thats not the correct way to take them... there are 2 difefrent reasons why youd want to use nolvadex:

1 - to protect against gynocomastia (bitch tits) - in this case you only really need them if you actually get this condition so just need them handy.

2 - as PCT (post cycle therapy), this is basically the process of restoring your bodys own natural testosterone production.. i.e. if you dont you wont keep many gains. have a read around the forum for further explanations on why to do this and what are the benefits etc.

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I am taking testex winstrol and d bol over eight weeks.I have nolvadex but i have not started them yet i was told to hold off till the last two weeks of the course do you think that is the correct way to take them.What does HGC stand for?What exactly is PCT?
Oh dear...

should've done your research before going straight into steroids buddy

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Old 19-07-2006, 03:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ok thanks lee i wil just keep them handy just in case i just wanted to ask because i was not to sure and i have been told a few different things by other people and they were all different so i was not 100% thanks.
Nick i am trying to do my research thats why i am here asking questions i just keep getting different advice from different web sites and from the people i know but at least i am trying to get right
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Its good your trying, yeah.

Good somebody outline a good PCT protocol for mr_o, im' not an expert in this.

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I agree that it's a bit annoying when someone hasn't done the correct research and starts a cycle without having their post cycle therapy(PCT) in place. I know some members finds this particularly irritating BUT I do think that if a slap on the wrist is given, then it needs to be followed with some constructive advice. That's if we want to keep members.
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O dub, detail your course and tell me what you have in reserve and lwt me see if I can help,

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