steroids & Health

pc2351

If all well after this weekend, back in training next Monday and of course I will start a ten week cycle.

When in Police job had advice from a Consultant and a Police Surgeon. Both suggested that when bulking that Nandralone + Sus 250 was a good stack.

Other Doctors that knew I was using remarked that it was STUPID to use them. Now then when told this I retaliated to which they had no answer. ie:- I told them that every week I dealt with druggies & drunks that cost the tax payers millions. Stated that the hospitals were full of people with cancer and related illnesses caused by smoking. Patients in Alcohol clinics, and druggies in rehab all costing the country millions. Then I ask, " Where are the hospitals that are full of bodybuilders because of taking a steroid".would you believe it they were stumped, why, because most of them know shit all about steroids. Believe it or believe it not when steroids were mentioned all had heard of Anabolic but some of them had never heard of Androgenic, and these people want to give you advice!!!!!

I look at it this way, If taking a bit of the Jungle Juice helps me to look like I did when competing last in 2004. it appears to be doing me more good than harm.

jarman

Moderation is key. I believe that the people who run into problems when using steroids are those who use them carelessly (abuse dosages, run year round cycles, etc.) Take a look at Lyle Alzado, this is a perfect example of steroid mis-use. The guy ran extremely high dosages and kept a never-ending cycle! :shock: Is it really a surprise he died of brain cancer?

c8rsa

Little is good. Like any drug they can become addictive but if you do your time on and off correctly you should be fine. Like you say ppl dont know enough about steroids.
Even kids with bone disorders can be perscribed roids...

Caymen

The doctors can only go by what they read in a text book, were we have actual experiance with these compounds, the doctors say that they can do this and do that etc etc, but the truth of the matter is the subjects that had these side effects were NOT healthy adult males!, they were dying or extremly ill patiants, dying from deseases like cancer, aids, or even old age and were given megadoses to try and counter the deseases muscle wasting effects, im not saying that mr average joe couldnt get some of the side effects but it has been totaly blown out of all proportion by media and government propaganda, im not saying using aas hasnt any risks but come on lets keep it real, one of the biggest worries whilst doing aas is having a sh1tty lipid profile and upping the chances of heart desease, and other cardio vascular problems in later life, but you dont see the government making it illegal to buy or sell fatty foods, and like as already been mentioned alcohol and cigarettes are both still legal to buy, its all about winning votes when election day comes around, vote "Caymen" il legalise them

Extreme

A General Practitioner studies for 4 years to become a doctor, only 6 months of that time is dedicated to pharmacology. I've studied pharmacology for longer! Most semi intelligent bodybuilders have, admittedly we only really look at anaboics/androgenics/thermogenics but a GP mainly looks at pain killers, anti biotics and cold medicine!

There's no point in discussing with your GP, especially if he/she are old, because their knowledge is non existent, you need to discuss with an endocrinoligist who specialises in hormone work. But even he wont have looked at the drugs to provide the effects we're after.

Or you can speak to PScarb as he knows more than most.

www.extremenutrition.co.uk

labrat

I saw an endocronologist 5 years ago when I was 36 and my test was 12.4 on a scale of 10 to 30 units. He said it was perfectly o.k and a decline in my level was to be expected " in a man of my age " he also suggested I take up a non strenuous sport like golf !!!
I have A levels in psychology and human biology, passed as a mature student then started a Degree in human biology and pharmacology in September 1997. Unfortunately I only did 2 first year terms and passed only 2 modules as amongst other factors my depression exploded


The endo. seemed really pissed off at the fact that I knew a little bit about his subject and dismissed all my ideas/suggestions about causes and treatment, including Hrt.
Now I self medicate with test enth and feel much better for it

PScarb

i agree i have been to a endo for an issue i have with bone density to which my Doc and the endo was convinced it was down to my steroid use, he first tried to lecture me on HPTA until i stopped him in his tracks when i asked him what his thoughts on leydig cells desensitization from over use of HCG where

it turned out the bone density issue i have is nothing to do with anabolic steroids but the steroids they give me for my spinal injury fukcing Muppet's