help on 1st cycle

manc_man · 13-06-2006, 12:27 PM

hi all,,i have been training for 2 years now and im not getting the gains i want,i have decided to give roids a go. heres the cycle i have planned to do so please tell me if anythings wrong.
wk 1-4 45mg dbol ed
wk 1-10 250mg suss
wk1-10 200mg deca
3 weeks after last shot start clomid @ 100mg first day then 100mg for 10 days then 50mg for another week.
i will also have some nolvadex at hand incase of signs of gyno. if gyno does appear how much nolva do i need to take and is it for the rest of the course? thanks

chalk · 13-06-2006, 12:59 PM

That's qiute a heavy first cycle. Especially if you've only been training 2 years.

Nick500 · 13-06-2006, 01:05 PM

I agree, don't jump into steroids, post up your diet and training and lets fix that first... if your not getting gains then theres something wrong with your diet..

**LeeB** · 13-06-2006, 01:39 PM

yeah - gear wont make you grow as such - its diet that makes you grow! gear just helps you along!

in terms of the cycle.. its a good one and would give good gains!

chrism · 13-06-2006, 02:01 PM

As said above mate - nail your diet first. Gear will only give the desired effects if diet is right.

Having said that, if I had to critique your cycle, I'd say drop the d'bol from 45mgs per day to 25mg, or 30mgs at the most.

45mg of Dbol is way to high for a 1st cycle IMO...you will get same gains off 25 or 30

chris

c8rsa · 15-06-2006, 07:42 PM

Try 20mg to 30mg dbol then hit the Test E for example.
Dbol will kick start your cycle and the test is alot easier on the body in regards to sides for a 1st timer

Caymen · 15-06-2006, 07:57 PM

Yeah im with nick and leeb on this mate, post up your diet and training so that it can be put right!, if your not growing there is something wrong...and adding gear wont fix it.. it will only end up disapointing you even more!, if its going to be done mate lets get it done right

Casanova_2ml · 19-06-2006, 02:32 AM

hi

In France the first cycle is just this=

in 6 weeks use 250mg / enanthate (Androtardyl) in one week.
in the end use Hcg.

The first cycle don t use a dianabol... Because is good for the 2nd cycle

Caymen · 19-06-2006, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casanova_2ml

hi

In France the first cycle is just this=

in 6 weeks use 250mg / enanthate (Androtardyl) in one week.
in the end use Hcg.

The first cycle don t use a dianabol... Because is good for the 2nd cycle

again mate this isnt a good cycle, 250mg test E once per week for 6 weeks is a waste of time and gear imo when there are better options out there!.

Nick500 · 20-06-2006, 01:46 AM

in 6 weeks use 250mg / enanthate (Androtardyl)TWICE A week.

13-06-2006, 12:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
manc_man Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power:	help on 1st cycle hi all,,i have been training for 2 years now and im not getting the gains i want,i have decided to give roids a go. heres the cycle i have planned to do so please tell me if anythings wrong. wk 1-4 45mg dbol ed wk 1-10 250mg suss wk1-10 200mg deca 3 weeks after last shot start clomid @ 100mg first day then 100mg for 10 days then 50mg for another week. i will also have some nolvadex at hand incase of signs of gyno. if gyno does appear how much nolva do i need to take and is it for the rest of the course? thanks

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Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	I agree, don't jump into steroids, post up your diet and training and lets fix that first... if your not getting gains then theres something wrong with your diet.. ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

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LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,991 Rep Power:	yeah - gear wont make you grow as such - its diet that makes you grow! gear just helps you along! in terms of the cycle.. its a good one and would give good gains! ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

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Caymen Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: www.PureMuscle.co.uk Posts: 435 Rep Power:	Yeah im with nick and leeb on this mate, post up your diet and training so that it can be put right!, if your not growing there is something wrong...and adding gear wont fix it.. it will only end up disapointing you even more!, if its going to be done mate lets get it done right ______________________ www.puremuscle.co.uk

20-06-2006, 01:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	in 6 weeks use 250mg / enanthate (Androtardyl)TWICE A week. ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

13-06-2006, 12:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
chalk Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 262 Rep Power:	That's qiute a heavy first cycle. Especially if you've only been training 2 years.

13-06-2006, 02:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
chrism Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 40 Rep Power:	As said above mate - nail your diet first. Gear will only give the desired effects if diet is right. Having said that, if I had to critique your cycle, I'd say drop the d'bol from 45mgs per day to 25mg, or 30mgs at the most. 45mg of Dbol is way to high for a 1st cycle IMO...you will get same gains off 25 or 30 chris

15-06-2006, 07:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
c8rsa Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beds/Herts Posts: 202 Rep Power:	Try 20mg to 30mg dbol then hit the Test E for example. Dbol will kick start your cycle and the test is alot easier on the body in regards to sides for a 1st timer

19-06-2006, 02:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Casanova_2ml Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FRANCE Posts: 101 Rep Power:	hi In France the first cycle is just this= in 6 weeks use 250mg / enanthate (Androtardyl) in one week. in the end use Hcg. The first cycle don t use a dianabol... Because is good for the 2nd cycle

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