second cycle

bigboss · 08-06-2006, 07:14 PM

guys fist cyle was 250mg test every 5 days,gains were just ok but was a bit gyno prone,im now looking at 500mg test 300mg deca with 1 proviron ed,would this dosage be too high for second cycle

chemist · 09-06-2006, 08:11 PM

sounds like a reasonable cycle to me, plus the proviron will help with gyno. what dose proviron are you using?if your prone to gyno i would be using 50mg every day

Caymen · 09-06-2006, 09:58 PM

If i were you and i was prone to gyno i would forget the proviron and go for adex instead and take .5mg ED, in fact i was prone to gyno and ended up getting it and the adex an nolva didnt help me!, i believe it was because i was only taking .5mg EOD, on reflection i should have taken between .5 - 1mg ED because i was very sensitive to estrogen!.

for your second cycle i would go for 500mg of test E per week taken twice per week monday and thursday for 12 weeks, then the next cycle i would add the deca!, the reason being you may be able to do 500mg per week of test and get away with no gyno but you throw deca in aswell then you start getting gyno you wont know wich one is causing the problem and you wont know wich one to treat because nolva and adex wont help if its deca induced, and by the time you have realised.. it may be to late to get any dostinex etc to treat it, keep it simple mate because i payed between £3500-£4000 for gyno surgery that i didnt realy want!.

be safe

Caymen.

**LeeB** · 10-06-2006, 10:14 AM

excellent advice caymen!!

id agree on all his recommendations too mate!

just for clarification... correct me if im wrong anyone....

there are two ways to get gyno:

estrogen conversion.. caused by test, dbol etc. etc...

progesterone conversion.. caused by decca, trenbolone and a few others...

BOTH forms of gyno require different meds for treatment/prevention... so caymens advice is spot on - learn how to control your gyno from the test before adding in any other variables and ending up with tits like my gran!!!

the amount of lads i know who dont take this seriously and end up with bitches is ridiculous!!

bigboss · 10-06-2006, 12:42 PM

good adive thanks guys im gonna go with 500mg test per week with 1 200mg shot of deca along with .5 adex ed to see how i go

Casanova_2ml · 19-06-2006, 02:35 AM

Hi

Yeah ideal is WEEK=
250mg / sustanon 1-2-3-4-5-6
200mg / deca 1-2-3-4-5-6
40 mg / dianabol 2-3-4-5

Hcg and proviron is nice for the end cycle.

(this is in france)

Caymen · 19-06-2006, 06:06 PM

I think there are better compounds to use casanova than the ones you have suggested for a 6 week cycle, like swapping them for fast acting ones, id swap the sus for test prop ( you could probably get away with sus but id change it anyway) and the deca for nandralone phenylpropionate and the dbol is ok, you are better off getting the blood levels up as soon as you can on a short cycle to take advantage of the limited time on the compounds, so using longer acting gear like deca and sus isnt the best ones to use imo because by the time your levels have peaked your just about ready to come off, and PCT would be a pain in the ass also, and having to finnish the deca a week or so before the test so your blood levels are never going to be anywear near stable.

do it like the UK lads ya cant go wrong

Casanova_2ml · 19-06-2006, 07:15 PM

HI ALL

yes friend the cycle is very different is the country, i have say whit a friend in poland (polsky) he use a 750mg/week of omnadren no-stop in the years...for me it s stupid, but this ius ideal for my friend.... :arrow: arfff

08-06-2006, 07:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
bigboss Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26 Rep Power:	second cycle guys fist cyle was 250mg test every 5 days,gains were just ok but was a bit gyno prone,im now looking at 500mg test 300mg deca with 1 proviron ed,would this dosage be too high for second cycle

10-06-2006, 10:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,984 Rep Power:	excellent advice caymen!! id agree on all his recommendations too mate! just for clarification... correct me if im wrong anyone.... there are two ways to get gyno: estrogen conversion.. caused by test, dbol etc. etc... progesterone conversion.. caused by decca, trenbolone and a few others... BOTH forms of gyno require different meds for treatment/prevention... so caymens advice is spot on - learn how to control your gyno from the test before adding in any other variables and ending up with tits like my gran!!! the amount of lads i know who dont take this seriously and end up with bitches is ridiculous!! ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

19-06-2006, 06:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Caymen Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: www.PureMuscle.co.uk Posts: 435 Rep Power:	I think there are better compounds to use casanova than the ones you have suggested for a 6 week cycle, like swapping them for fast acting ones, id swap the sus for test prop ( you could probably get away with sus but id change it anyway) and the deca for nandralone phenylpropionate and the dbol is ok, you are better off getting the blood levels up as soon as you can on a short cycle to take advantage of the limited time on the compounds, so using longer acting gear like deca and sus isnt the best ones to use imo because by the time your levels have peaked your just about ready to come off, and PCT would be a pain in the ass also, and having to finnish the deca a week or so before the test so your blood levels are never going to be anywear near stable. do it like the UK lads ya cant go wrong ______________________ www.puremuscle.co.uk

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09-06-2006, 08:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
chemist Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2 Rep Power:	sounds like a reasonable cycle to me, plus the proviron will help with gyno. what dose proviron are you using?if your prone to gyno i would be using 50mg every day

09-06-2006, 09:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Caymen Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: www.PureMuscle.co.uk Posts: 435 Rep Power:	If i were you and i was prone to gyno i would forget the proviron and go for adex instead and take .5mg ED, in fact i was prone to gyno and ended up getting it and the adex an nolva didnt help me!, i believe it was because i was only taking .5mg EOD, on reflection i should have taken between .5 - 1mg ED because i was very sensitive to estrogen!. for your second cycle i would go for 500mg of test E per week taken twice per week monday and thursday for 12 weeks, then the next cycle i would add the deca!, the reason being you may be able to do 500mg per week of test and get away with no gyno but you throw deca in aswell then you start getting gyno you wont know wich one is causing the problem and you wont know wich one to treat because nolva and adex wont help if its deca induced, and by the time you have realised.. it may be to late to get any dostinex etc to treat it, keep it simple mate because i payed between £3500-£4000 for gyno surgery that i didnt realy want!. be safe Caymen.

10-06-2006, 12:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigboss Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26 Rep Power:	good adive thanks guys im gonna go with 500mg test per week with 1 200mg shot of deca along with .5 adex ed to see how i go

19-06-2006, 02:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Casanova_2ml Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FRANCE Posts: 101 Rep Power:	Hi Yeah ideal is WEEK= 250mg / sustanon 1-2-3-4-5-6 200mg / deca 1-2-3-4-5-6 40 mg / dianabol 2-3-4-5 Hcg and proviron is nice for the end cycle. (this is in france)

19-06-2006, 07:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Casanova_2ml Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FRANCE Posts: 101 Rep Power:	HI ALL yes friend the cycle is very different is the country, i have say whit a friend in poland (polsky) he use a 750mg/week of omnadren no-stop in the years...for me it s stupid, but this ius ideal for my friend.... :arrow: arfff