a good beginner cycle

seandrob@yahoo.co.uk · 07-06-2006, 11:49 AM

hey guys
was wondering what would be a good beginner cycle. i want to put on quite a bit of muscle, probably about 10-14lbs. i dont know if i want to start injecting so was thinking of oral steroids. also what about PCT cycles as well. all help would be great.
thanks
sean

chalk · 07-06-2006, 12:30 PM

How long have you been training for Sean?
What are your stats?
What's your training routine?
Is your diet up to scratch?
Have you done any pro-hormones or orals before?

For anyone to give you informed advice they need to be told these things first.

Dinosaur · 07-06-2006, 01:26 PM

Go for Dbols 8 a day. This will be a fun thread.

chalk · 07-06-2006, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinosaur

Go for Dbols 8 a day. This will be a fun thread.

For how long? Are there different strengths? What about PCT?
Surely you should be giving a lot more info before making recommendations like that.

**LeeB** · 07-06-2006, 01:34 PM

sean

as you can guess there will be alot of suggestions come forward and probably alot of contradictory advice.. the main thing you need to do is establish whatyour goals are (which you have done) and base any cycle upon yuor current level of development - as chalk has suggested!

keep the info coming and youll end up with exactly what your looking for at the end of the day mate! its worth putting the time into plannin these things as the benefits you will get will be impressive!

Young Gun · 07-06-2006, 01:42 PM

very well put chalk.

Dino dbol tabs from WHICH brand. BD squares for example are 10mg 10 x 8 = 80mg per day. You haven't given any advice on pct or on cycle ancillaries, when to take them, how many at once, for how long, potential side effects, how to cope with those side effects or prevent them, emotional effects, I could carry on........

so the advice you have just given is an easy way to get gyno and not have a ****ing clue what to do about it.

Regardless of whether dbol only is a good first cycle or not which I believe it is not some believe that it is your advice is again patchy. Please think before you give advice. Quite frankly you know very little about steroids and shouldn't be giving advice on them

Sean oral steroids are generally more liver toxic and thus not to be preferred if you can manage to inject. A good beginner cycle is 500mg test enanthate for 12 weeks spread over 2 injections per week. Read the steroid sticky as that is a good grounding for info and then ask questions

If you want to use oral only then I will let someone else advise you as I believe this is not a good idea and unfortunately I'm very tired of arguing about this with the same idiots nothing to do with you but sorry. If you do wish to do an oral only cycle make sure you take at least 4 people's opinions form the thread before you begin to form your own ideas.

Good luck buddy

Young Gun · 07-06-2006, 01:45 PM

thankfully the advice you received from people in a thread prior to this about orals was very good.

Dinosaur · 08-06-2006, 08:43 AM

YG looking at your pics mate id say you know nothing about steroids or bodybuilding. Again my opinion im sure if others dont bull they too will say it as it is.

If i was you id give up bodybuilding and become a ballet dancer as i think your body is more suited to this type of profession.

Again my opinion mate.

thank you

Dino

**LeeB** · 08-06-2006, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinosaur

YG looking at your pics mate id say you know nothing about steroids or bodybuilding. Again my opinion im sure if others dont bull they too will say it as it is.

If i was you id give up bodybuilding and become a ballet dancer as i think your body is more suited to this type of profession.

Again my opinion mate.

thank you

Dino

lol...

come on dino.. its all about learning...

i was 9st and out of shape when i first started training.. and i knew nowt about gear or diet and nutrition - or training for that matter back then!!

Dinosaur · 08-06-2006, 09:26 AM

[EDITED: Dino, please refrain from causing tension on this board, you have been warned]

dino

07-06-2006, 11:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
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07-06-2006, 12:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
chalk Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 262 Rep Power:	How long have you been training for Sean? What are your stats? What's your training routine? Is your diet up to scratch? Have you done any pro-hormones or orals before? For anyone to give you informed advice they need to be told these things first.

07-06-2006, 01:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	Go for Dbols 8 a day. This will be a fun thread.

07-06-2006, 01:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	very well put chalk. Dino dbol tabs from WHICH brand. BD squares for example are 10mg 10 x 8 = 80mg per day. You haven't given any advice on pct or on cycle ancillaries, when to take them, how many at once, for how long, potential side effects, how to cope with those side effects or prevent them, emotional effects, I could carry on........ so the advice you have just given is an easy way to get gyno and not have a ****ing clue what to do about it. Regardless of whether dbol only is a good first cycle or not which I believe it is not some believe that it is your advice is again patchy. Please think before you give advice. Quite frankly you know very little about steroids and shouldn't be giving advice on them Sean oral steroids are generally more liver toxic and thus not to be preferred if you can manage to inject. A good beginner cycle is 500mg test enanthate for 12 weeks spread over 2 injections per week. Read the steroid sticky as that is a good grounding for info and then ask questions If you want to use oral only then I will let someone else advise you as I believe this is not a good idea and unfortunately I'm very tired of arguing about this with the same idiots nothing to do with you but sorry. If you do wish to do an oral only cycle make sure you take at least 4 people's opinions form the thread before you begin to form your own ideas. Good luck buddy

07-06-2006, 01:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	thankfully the advice you received from people in a thread prior to this about orals was very good.

08-06-2006, 08:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	YG looking at your pics mate id say you know nothing about steroids or bodybuilding. Again my opinion im sure if others dont bull they too will say it as it is. If i was you id give up bodybuilding and become a ballet dancer as i think your body is more suited to this type of profession. Again my opinion mate. thank you Dino

08-06-2006, 09:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	[EDITED: Dino, please refrain from causing tension on this board, you have been warned] dino