My 1st course

rgugliel · 18-05-2006, 01:03 AM

Hey im new to the whole steroid thing and if anyone has any advice it would be very much appreciated, I have a phobia of needles which further down the line I might get over but for now im looking to do a oral course, I was looking to do "Dianabol 10mg - Methanabol (British Dragon Thailand)" "Winstrol tabs (Zambon Spain)" and some"Nolvadex (Zenca Greece)" would this be a good combo? if so how much do you reckon I should take of each? im 98kg been training about 18mths still trying to cut a good bit of bodyfat whilst gaining muscle, is there any advice anyone could give me? thanks

Dinosaur · 18-05-2006, 08:10 AM

Hi mate, i persoanlly would not stack dinobol with winstrol and especially on first cycle. You 1st cycle is normally the best and most productive one so make it a good one. I think the Dbols are a great 1st cycle but others will disagree and some will agree so it's personall to you. I also dont believe you can do both gain muscle and loose bodyfat or shall i say enough to make a difference to the way you look.

If i was you i would have a course of Dbols and after this, id have 4 to 6 weeks off then hit the next cycle at this stage if you must i would then think about dieting, shedding the body fat. Dbol 1st wk 4 pd .. 2nd wk 5 pd... 3rd wk 7pd... 4th wk 9pd ... wks 5 & 6 take 10pd.... 7th wk 9pd ... 8th wk 7pd ... 9th wk 5 pd ... 10th wk 4pd.

You seem to know very little about steroids so my adverse would be to thouroughly research them b4 use.

Take your dbol throughout the day not all at once as this will be less toxic on the liver also drink plenty of water throughout the day. 1 nolva pd will be fine.

The above is just my opinion others may disagree and this is what the forum is for debating.

rgugliel · 18-05-2006, 08:28 AM

thanks allot for that, its really helpful, I reckon if im increasing muscle mass then ill be happy enough, during the 6-10 weeks that im taking the d-bol should I do in on a 5 days on 2 days off or just take it 7 days a week and change the amount at the start of each week? and for the Nolvadex what dosage would you recommend? thanks allot for the help, I got 2 books on steroids which iv started on one and intend to finish before I start my course

Dinosaur · 18-05-2006, 09:17 AM

No you dont come off till you have finnished your cycle which is week 10. You can change the amount every 7 days. Take one nolvadex per day. Don't forget you will retain water and possibly look a bit bloated, your strengh should go up and your overall size will increase. you might loose 80 or even 90% of you gains, but there are ways of retaining most of your gains.

All the best

Dino

FAT BOY · 18-05-2006, 09:37 AM

ten weeks is a long time on d/b six weeks max imo

Nick500 · 18-05-2006, 09:47 AM

I'm sorry but dinosaur is recommending a dangerous cycle for you here, 10 weeks of dbol is definitely something you want to avoid. Dinosaur how can you possibly recommend 10 per day of '"Dianabol 10mg - Methanabol (British Dragon Thailand)"' thats 100mgs....

rgugliel you have a huge amount of reading to do, the fact that you dont understand why you can do it like 5 on 2 off is an indication that you are definitely not ready for steroids and need to do a hell of a lot of research...

http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

read for 6 months then consider steroids imo..

Nick

Dinosaur · 18-05-2006, 10:05 AM

Hi Nick, i never recommended anything mate and would never do so, as mentioned i said it's personal to you.

Personally i still dont think 10 per day is too much or that 10 wks is too long, but hey, were all diferent. Quote "Dianabol 10mg - Methanabol (British Dragon Thailand)". are we saying some Dbol is weeker. Maybe this is where i get my 10 a day from.

Let me know.

Dino

Nick500 · 18-05-2006, 02:51 PM

yes, there are 5mg dbol tabs as well,

"If i was you i would have a course of Dbols and after this, id have 4 to 6 weeks off then hit the next cycle at this stage if you must i would then think about dieting, shedding the body fat. Dbol 1st wk 4 pd .. 2nd wk 5 pd... 3rd wk 7pd... 4th wk 9pd ... wks 5 & 6 take 10pd.... 7th wk 9pd ... 8th wk 7pd ... 9th wk 5 pd ... 10th wk 4pd. "

this is a recommendation no doubt :P

all i'm saying is be careful with advice like this as some people won't bother with research and will just take what you say as gold and damage themselves especially if the tablets are double the dosage you recommended for the amount above....

rgugliel i hope you do you proper research

Nick

Dinosaur · 18-05-2006, 03:30 PM

Cheers nick and yes your right, and suppose it comes over as a recommendation again i assume the dose is not to high assuming 5 mg tabs are used.

rgugliel · 18-05-2006, 06:02 PM

no problem, I take everything in, I'll admit I haven't got a clue about them but I think if I had an idea of what I should be starting off on id have a better idea of what areas to research, everything's appreciated, thanks

18-05-2006, 01:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
rgugliel Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 24 Rep Power:	My 1st course Hey im new to the whole steroid thing and if anyone has any advice it would be very much appreciated, I have a phobia of needles which further down the line I might get over but for now im looking to do a oral course, I was looking to do "Dianabol 10mg - Methanabol (British Dragon Thailand)" "Winstrol tabs (Zambon Spain)" and some"Nolvadex (Zenca Greece)" would this be a good combo? if so how much do you reckon I should take of each? im 98kg been training about 18mths still trying to cut a good bit of bodyfat whilst gaining muscle, is there any advice anyone could give me? thanks

18-05-2006, 09:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,232 Rep Power:	I'm sorry but dinosaur is recommending a dangerous cycle for you here, 10 weeks of dbol is definitely something you want to avoid. Dinosaur how can you possibly recommend 10 per day of '"Dianabol 10mg - Methanabol (British Dragon Thailand)"' thats 100mgs.... rgugliel you have a huge amount of reading to do, the fact that you dont understand why you can do it like 5 on 2 off is an indication that you are definitely not ready for steroids and need to do a hell of a lot of research... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464 read for 6 months then consider steroids imo.. Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

18-05-2006, 02:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,232 Rep Power:	yes, there are 5mg dbol tabs as well, "If i was you i would have a course of Dbols and after this, id have 4 to 6 weeks off then hit the next cycle at this stage if you must i would then think about dieting, shedding the body fat. Dbol 1st wk 4 pd .. 2nd wk 5 pd... 3rd wk 7pd... 4th wk 9pd ... wks 5 & 6 take 10pd.... 7th wk 9pd ... 8th wk 7pd ... 9th wk 5 pd ... 10th wk 4pd. " this is a recommendation no doubt :P all i'm saying is be careful with advice like this as some people won't bother with research and will just take what you say as gold and damage themselves especially if the tablets are double the dosage you recommended for the amount above.... rgugliel i hope you do you proper research Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

18-05-2006, 06:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
rgugliel Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 24 Rep Power:	Thanks no problem, I take everything in, I'll admit I haven't got a clue about them but I think if I had an idea of what I should be starting off on id have a better idea of what areas to research, everything's appreciated, thanks

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18-05-2006, 08:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	Hi mate, i persoanlly would not stack dinobol with winstrol and especially on first cycle. You 1st cycle is normally the best and most productive one so make it a good one. I think the Dbols are a great 1st cycle but others will disagree and some will agree so it's personall to you. I also dont believe you can do both gain muscle and loose bodyfat or shall i say enough to make a difference to the way you look. If i was you i would have a course of Dbols and after this, id have 4 to 6 weeks off then hit the next cycle at this stage if you must i would then think about dieting, shedding the body fat. Dbol 1st wk 4 pd .. 2nd wk 5 pd... 3rd wk 7pd... 4th wk 9pd ... wks 5 & 6 take 10pd.... 7th wk 9pd ... 8th wk 7pd ... 9th wk 5 pd ... 10th wk 4pd. You seem to know very little about steroids so my adverse would be to thouroughly research them b4 use. Take your dbol throughout the day not all at once as this will be less toxic on the liver also drink plenty of water throughout the day. 1 nolva pd will be fine. The above is just my opinion others may disagree and this is what the forum is for debating.

18-05-2006, 08:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
rgugliel Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 24 Rep Power:	thanks allot for that, its really helpful, I reckon if im increasing muscle mass then ill be happy enough, during the 6-10 weeks that im taking the d-bol should I do in on a 5 days on 2 days off or just take it 7 days a week and change the amount at the start of each week? and for the Nolvadex what dosage would you recommend? thanks allot for the help, I got 2 books on steroids which iv started on one and intend to finish before I start my course

18-05-2006, 09:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	No you dont come off till you have finnished your cycle which is week 10. You can change the amount every 7 days. Take one nolvadex per day. Don't forget you will retain water and possibly look a bit bloated, your strengh should go up and your overall size will increase. you might loose 80 or even 90% of you gains, but there are ways of retaining most of your gains. All the best Dino

18-05-2006, 09:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
FAT BOY Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 838 Rep Power:	ten weeks is a long time on d/b six weeks max imo

18-05-2006, 10:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	Hi Nick, i never recommended anything mate and would never do so, as mentioned i said it's personal to you. Personally i still dont think 10 per day is too much or that 10 wks is too long, but hey, were all diferent. Quote "Dianabol 10mg - Methanabol (British Dragon Thailand)". are we saying some Dbol is weeker. Maybe this is where i get my 10 a day from. Let me know. Dino

18-05-2006, 03:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	Cheers nick and yes your right, and suppose it comes over as a recommendation again i assume the dose is not to high assuming 5 mg tabs are used.