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Old 22-03-2006, 11:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Beginner cycle with Sustanon

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Clomid
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1 500 mg sustanon per week
2 500
3 500
4 500
5 500
6 500
7 500
8 500
9
10
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12 100 mg clomid per day
13 50
14 50

DOSAGE NEEDED: 16 amps of SUSTANON & 30 tablets of CLOMID

Got this of a website what do you think about it anyone?
Im a first time user, but should i go for the Beginner cycle with Test-enanthate & Deca-Durabolin or this? Any experiences?

what would the differences be?
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hell read this http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

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I appreciate your answer and i am aware of all that, I have been reading up on roids for over 6 months.

But it still doesnt answer my question. plus i would like to get answers from people who have experienced the cycles i have listed.
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you'd be better shooting test enan 2x per week (i.e. mon and thurs) instead of the sust, that IMO would be okay for a first cycle, make sure you have some nolva on hand too just incase gyno shows up

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Why do you think test and deca would be better that sus?

Would clomid be ok as an anti-E or would i need nolva?

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test only for a first cycle is recommended...especially over sust since (simply put) sust is a blend of four different test esters and some people respond poorly to some esters...if this is the case, you may have to scrap your entire cycle and not even know which compound was giving you trouble...additionally, by nature, sust must be injected often, which takes some getting used to and often makes for a bad experience for first timers...and no, you can not used clomid like that since it is not an anti-estrogen drug and may actually cause the opposite effect...you will need nolva and clomid for pct (although there is an emerging trend of nolva only pct, however that is a matter for another place and time)...

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thanks soulcard. i'll run the deac/test with clomid and nolva
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no...do not run test and deca with clomid and nolva all at the same time...try something like this...

test=500mg/week
deca=350-400mg/week
nolva=20mg/day

...then pct afterwards with clomid and nolva...

how long of a cycle are you planning? which test are you going to use? (these questions matter in planning a cycle)...

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a 10 week cycle with test enathate. could i replace the deca with an oral steroid? if so which one.
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just keep it simple craig and go for

1-10 Test E 500 mg per week
1-4 25mg dbol Every day
keep nolva on hand incase gyno rears its ugly head

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