Its no joke, bloodwork!.

Caymen · 23-02-2006, 12:55 AM

just been reading some old threads from boards i vist and i thought id share a couple with you that bring home the seriousness in taking steroids, i dont know if they have been posted before but that doesnt bother me, there are alot of new guys and girls on now that need to be informed and some of us older ones that need reminding!.

If steroids are taken in large doses or for long periods of time things can go wrong within your body, if they are not brought to light by having blood tests then you could risk a hell of alot more than the usual side effects like acne and gyno, some are fatal!.

A small piece that MassWithClass wrote to try and get the message across that what we do is risky and trying to keep the risk as small as possible and also the importance of bloodwork!.

incidentley MassWith Class died from his complications.

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Alot of you people know me, but for those who don't i'm a 2 time state middleweight Pa State champion in the NPC. I also took it to the next level 2 times competing at Nationals for the allmighty PRO card. I recently was diagnosed with Renal Kidney Failure, that means basically my kidneys are shutting down. I need dialysis 3 times a week for 4 hours a session to stay alive. Kidney problems do not run in my family, nobody in my family has ever had a kidney related issue.
You have to realize there are consiquenses to your actions with AAS, do not think that you are invinsible.
I was recently prepping for the state championships, i figured this is my year for the overall state title Mr Pennsyvania and it was balls to the wall. About 6 weeks out i started throwing up every day sometimes 2 times a day, my ankles were holding water and my skin was turning very pale and i was so fatigued but i pushed on anyway thinking i was being a pussy. Finally it got so bad i could barely breathe and was truely afraid that something very serious was wrong. I went to the doctor for bloodwork, he sent it out stat the next thing i know he called me and wanted me in the hospital NOW. I went to intensive care where they gave me 4 units of blood and blood pressure meds, turns out my kidney's where shutting down and have been doing so for some time now. I went from prepping for a state title to having a doctor sitting in front of me telling me "you need a transplant". If i would have had bloodwork and payed attention to it i would more than likey not been in this grim position. Nobody talks about the bad side of steroids on these boards, so i just wanted you to know what you are getting into. I don't mean to lecture, i was asked to write this piece to make people realize there is a bad side about steroids that most people are in denial about.
Thank you for listening and hopefully i can help some of you from being in the same position as me some day.

I personally loved the 17-alpha alkylated pills, anadrol, d-bol, winny, halo and i also believe trenbolone played a role. I would like to add that i did pop anti inflamatories when sore and also did the eca stack since 1991. As far as aas i have been doing it since 1996 with little time off.

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you can say what you want about his steroid use but the fact of the matter still remains if he would have had regular blood work done he would have been better informed what was going on inside his body and been able to take action against things that were going wrong and more than likely be alive today!.

devilsquest · 23-02-2006, 07:55 AM

good post caymen,,it always good to shock the missin formed so as to make them aware that there are sides to useing!

DarkAngel · 23-02-2006, 11:02 AM

Bump - blood work is necessary for the serious bodybuilder!

evangelionpunk · 23-02-2006, 11:05 AM

AAS are restricted for a reason.

However that guys statement of "I personally loved the 17-alpha alkylated pills" and "I would like to add that i did pop anti inflamatories when sore and also did the eca stack since 1991. As far as aas i have been doing it since 1996 with little time off."

says it all.

The guy was popping alkylated pills + antiinflammotories+long time AAS use and most likely +pain medications NSAIDS which = FCKED KIDNEYS!

crazycal1 · 23-02-2006, 01:36 PM

if your using aas and want blood tests-will your gp do this(cos he has to) or is it something you have to get done privately :?:

razg · 23-02-2006, 01:50 PM

I think it would be fairly easy to make up some generic symptoms, perhaps say you've been drinking heavily, in order to get various bloodwork done. I wouldn't recommend telling one's doctor about AAS usage.

Nick500 · 23-02-2006, 01:54 PM

why is this always ur recommendation raz?

i've told the doctor about superdrol before, it doesn't change anything, its not like they write notes on what you say unless its really a serious concern

Young Gun · 23-02-2006, 01:58 PM

Still not worth the risk IMO, potential life insurance issues. I'm not clued up as such but not something I want on my medical record

razg · 23-02-2006, 03:53 PM

Exactly. What if you apply for a job where you'd have to divulge your medical records for insurance purposes?

**Bodyworks** · 23-02-2006, 04:21 PM

if you don't want the doc to know, try here http://www.thedoctorltd.co.uk/

don't lie to the doctor guys, they'll give you a more accurate prognosis if you're honest and up front with them.

Plus, if you're sat there with 20 inch arms and veins running down your legs, i think they might guess.

23-02-2006, 12:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
Caymen Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: www.PureMuscle.co.uk Posts: 435 Rep Power:	Its no joke, bloodwork!. just been reading some old threads from boards i vist and i thought id share a couple with you that bring home the seriousness in taking steroids, i dont know if they have been posted before but that doesnt bother me, there are alot of new guys and girls on now that need to be informed and some of us older ones that need reminding!. If steroids are taken in large doses or for long periods of time things can go wrong within your body, if they are not brought to light by having blood tests then you could risk a hell of alot more than the usual side effects like acne and gyno, some are fatal!. A small piece that MassWithClass wrote to try and get the message across that what we do is risky and trying to keep the risk as small as possible and also the importance of bloodwork!. incidentley MassWith Class died from his complications. ============= Alot of you people know me, but for those who don't i'm a 2 time state middleweight Pa State champion in the NPC. I also took it to the next level 2 times competing at Nationals for the allmighty PRO card. I recently was diagnosed with Renal Kidney Failure, that means basically my kidneys are shutting down. I need dialysis 3 times a week for 4 hours a session to stay alive. Kidney problems do not run in my family, nobody in my family has ever had a kidney related issue. You have to realize there are consiquenses to your actions with AAS, do not think that you are invinsible. I was recently prepping for the state championships, i figured this is my year for the overall state title Mr Pennsyvania and it was balls to the wall. About 6 weeks out i started throwing up every day sometimes 2 times a day, my ankles were holding water and my skin was turning very pale and i was so fatigued but i pushed on anyway thinking i was being a pussy. Finally it got so bad i could barely breathe and was truely afraid that something very serious was wrong. I went to the doctor for bloodwork, he sent it out stat the next thing i know he called me and wanted me in the hospital NOW. I went to intensive care where they gave me 4 units of blood and blood pressure meds, turns out my kidney's where shutting down and have been doing so for some time now. I went from prepping for a state title to having a doctor sitting in front of me telling me "you need a transplant". If i would have had bloodwork and payed attention to it i would more than likey not been in this grim position. Nobody talks about the bad side of steroids on these boards, so i just wanted you to know what you are getting into. I don't mean to lecture, i was asked to write this piece to make people realize there is a bad side about steroids that most people are in denial about. Thank you for listening and hopefully i can help some of you from being in the same position as me some day. I personally loved the 17-alpha alkylated pills, anadrol, d-bol, winny, halo and i also believe trenbolone played a role. I would like to add that i did pop anti inflamatories when sore and also did the eca stack since 1991. As far as aas i have been doing it since 1996 with little time off. ========= you can say what you want about his steroid use but the fact of the matter still remains if he would have had regular blood work done he would have been better informed what was going on inside his body and been able to take action against things that were going wrong and more than likely be alive today!.

23-02-2006, 07:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
devilsquest Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,165 Rep Power:	good post caymen,,it always good to shock the missin formed so as to make them aware that there are sides to useing! ______________________ theres a monkey on my back........hi MOD's and Admin

23-02-2006, 01:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,912 Rep Power:	if your using aas and want blood tests-will your gp do this(cos he has to) or is it something you have to get done privately :?: ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk

23-02-2006, 01:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	why is this always ur recommendation raz? i've told the doctor about superdrol before, it doesn't change anything, its not like they write notes on what you say unless its really a serious concern ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

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23-02-2006, 11:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
DarkAngel Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 331 Rep Power:	Bump - blood work is necessary for the serious bodybuilder!

23-02-2006, 11:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
evangelionpunk Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 91 Rep Power:	AAS are restricted for a reason. However that guys statement of "I personally loved the 17-alpha alkylated pills" and "I would like to add that i did pop anti inflamatories when sore and also did the eca stack since 1991. As far as aas i have been doing it since 1996 with little time off." says it all. The guy was popping alkylated pills + antiinflammotories+long time AAS use and most likely +pain medications NSAIDS which = FCKED KIDNEYS!

23-02-2006, 01:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	I think it would be fairly easy to make up some generic symptoms, perhaps say you've been drinking heavily, in order to get various bloodwork done. I wouldn't recommend telling one's doctor about AAS usage.

23-02-2006, 01:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	Still not worth the risk IMO, potential life insurance issues. I'm not clued up as such but not something I want on my medical record

23-02-2006, 03:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	Exactly. What if you apply for a job where you'd have to divulge your medical records for insurance purposes?

23-02-2006, 04:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bodyworks Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 1,011 Rep Power:	if you don't want the doc to know, try here http://www.thedoctorltd.co.uk/ don't lie to the doctor guys, they'll give you a more accurate prognosis if you're honest and up front with them. Plus, if you're sat there with 20 inch arms and veins running down your legs, i think they might guess.