Next Cycle...Revised

SoulCard · 29-01-2006, 04:59 PM

Upon further thought here's what I've come up with...

Weeks 1-15, prop at 200 eod (700mg/week)
Weeks 1-13, Eq 500mg/week
Weeks 11-15, Winny @ 50mg/day

...what ya'll think of this, I'll run the test longer, subbed the Deca for Eq and and swapped the var for winny but for 4 weeks instead...

Andy1981iron · 29-01-2006, 05:05 PM

Looks solid enough to me, what cycle number will this be for you?

I personally wouldn't dare run winny as i'm frightened of shedding, but I think I may be predisposition to MPB.

SoulCard · 29-01-2006, 05:13 PM

what cycle number...kinda hard to answer...second well planned and proper cycle, however I did three other cycles that were actually not real cycles and not followed by pct (LOL...I listened to a "buddy" of mine...but now I know better)...my first was deca only (no pct), second was dbol only (no pct), third was deca & dbol (somewhat salvaged by adding prop at the end for 3 weeks and pct) and fourth was 12 weeks prop only with pct...

Andy1981iron · 29-01-2006, 05:22 PM

If its your second proper cycle id drop the winny, run the prop at 600mg a week and up the eq to 600mg.

Apparently some people don't respond to 400-500mg EQ, some even need 1000mg to get much feedback. But as its very easy on the body it can be run at high dosages with few side effects. It is also meant to take a long time to kick in, around 6-8 weeks so i'd run it for the full duration.

SoulCard · 29-01-2006, 05:24 PM

good thoughts..others?

SoulCard · 30-01-2006, 02:04 AM

...bump...

sitries · 30-01-2006, 05:36 PM

i think you should stick with the anavar at the end instead of winny mate. like andy- i wouldnt use it because of the risk of aggravating MPB. Iv just ordered some anavar to use for 5weeks at the end of my cycle. il let you know how it goes.

id run the EQ for the full 15weeks aswel mate.

Mr Nice · 30-01-2006, 06:32 PM

Why the Prop and not enathate is it because you want a jump start and prop is quick acting? Prop surpose to be painful re injecting esspecially eod.

razg · 30-01-2006, 08:41 PM

I disagree about the EQ, there are sides at a higher dosage, including anxiety for one. With regards to the winny, you can get about 15% extra bioavailability if you go for injectable... given you have no problem with prop, you could probably put up with winny shots.

EQ is also good as it will help with collagen synthesis in tendons.

crazycal1 · 30-01-2006, 08:42 PM

what about masteron?its good at the end of a cycle and apparently is really effective for showing of muscle hardness if you have a low bf :?:

29-01-2006, 04:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 819 Rep Power:	Next Cycle...Revised Upon further thought here's what I've come up with... Weeks 1-15, prop at 200 eod (700mg/week) Weeks 1-13, Eq 500mg/week Weeks 11-15, Winny @ 50mg/day ...what ya'll think of this, I'll run the test longer, subbed the Deca for Eq and and swapped the var for winny but for 4 weeks instead... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

29-01-2006, 05:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 819 Rep Power:	what cycle number...kinda hard to answer...second well planned and proper cycle, however I did three other cycles that were actually not real cycles and not followed by pct (LOL...I listened to a "buddy" of mine...but now I know better)...my first was deca only (no pct), second was dbol only (no pct), third was deca & dbol (somewhat salvaged by adding prop at the end for 3 weeks and pct) and fourth was 12 weeks prop only with pct... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

29-01-2006, 05:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 819 Rep Power:	good thoughts..others? ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

30-01-2006, 02:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 819 Rep Power:	...bump... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

30-01-2006, 06:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mr Nice Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 226 Rep Power:	Why the Prop and not enathate is it because you want a jump start and prop is quick acting? Prop surpose to be painful re injecting esspecially eod. ______________________ Nice

29-01-2006, 05:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	Looks solid enough to me, what cycle number will this be for you? I personally wouldn't dare run winny as i'm frightened of shedding, but I think I may be predisposition to MPB.

29-01-2006, 05:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	If its your second proper cycle id drop the winny, run the prop at 600mg a week and up the eq to 600mg. Apparently some people don't respond to 400-500mg EQ, some even need 1000mg to get much feedback. But as its very easy on the body it can be run at high dosages with few side effects. It is also meant to take a long time to kick in, around 6-8 weeks so i'd run it for the full duration.

30-01-2006, 05:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	i think you should stick with the anavar at the end instead of winny mate. like andy- i wouldnt use it because of the risk of aggravating MPB. Iv just ordered some anavar to use for 5weeks at the end of my cycle. il let you know how it goes. id run the EQ for the full 15weeks aswel mate.

30-01-2006, 08:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	I disagree about the EQ, there are sides at a higher dosage, including anxiety for one. With regards to the winny, you can get about 15% extra bioavailability if you go for injectable... given you have no problem with prop, you could probably put up with winny shots. EQ is also good as it will help with collagen synthesis in tendons.

30-01-2006, 08:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,910 Rep Power:	what about masteron?its good at the end of a cycle and apparently is really effective for showing of muscle hardness if you have a low bf :?:

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