gyno scare!

sitries · 24-01-2006, 11:11 PM

im in my 5th week of test 500mg per week test enan cycle. a mate noticed my nipples were a bit puffy. i kinda noticed it but the thing is - i havent had any soreness or itchyness. i took 60mg of nolva just in case last night and may use it now at 10mg a day for the rest of the cycle(i wasnt using any nolva during the cycle before this).

Could this be gyno????

Nick500 · 24-01-2006, 11:23 PM

i think it could...

but it also could just be fat/water from the cycle. Given that nolva is pretty damn cheap just do 20mg/day for the rest of the cycle perhaps

Nick

tahir · 24-01-2006, 11:23 PM

can u feel a slight lump near ur nipple bro, itchness and sourness is jus a early sign of it.

sitries · 25-01-2006, 12:03 AM

its hard to tell. theres nothing directly under my nipple. but about 2cm into my pec it feels like there may be a slight build up of tissue on 1 side. the thing is - iv had no itchyness or soreness whilst on cycle. also - i didnt feel mu nipples before doing the cycle so i dont really know what my nipples are meant tp feel like. i expected gyno to be painfull to touch and i expected the lumps to be small - this is neither. also - a guy who have got gyno in my gym felt it and said there noting to worry about. should i just take 20mg ED for the rest of the cycle and keep an eye on it?? its really pissing me off though because i just want to know 1 way orthe other if it is gyno?? what does ther lump look and feel like? are there any other tell tale signs?

Caymen · 25-01-2006, 12:42 AM

trust me m8 there is no mistaking gyno!, it just doesnt suddenly creep up on you and bang you got gyno, the puffyness you have will be water acumulation in the skin!, it shows up more on the nipple because you nipples are made of realy thin skin.

i can tell you how it feels because ive had it and it was painfull!, first thing stop playing with your tits because you will get some funny looks, also you will make them tender and this can be mistaken for gyno by yourself.

When you start getting the first signs of gyno your nipples will be very sensitive and tighten up and become erect quite alot, (but this can happen to most guys and they never get gyno), then a few days later you will feel a pain behind the centre of the nipple or just above centre and it will feel like you have got a very sore boil behind the nipple, no lump but a feeling of soreness, then a few days and you will notice a small lump the size of half a garden pea maybe a little smaller behind the nipple, then from then on the lump will get bigger and bigger feeling like you have a large marble behind your nipples, by the time you hormone levels return to normal and the lump stops growing, then the lump will regress slightly and then you have a brand new pair of tits for the lads to stare at if there in to that kind of thing

if you havent got any of those symptoms dont bother with the nolva!, i am a firm believer in only using a compound when nescersary!, and if you use nolva now when you dont need it!.. you have to use it for all your cycles because you truly dont know wether you need it or not.

but seriously if you get gyno you are the first one to notice it! not your friends, because you will have pain and a lump growing under the skin!, it will be kind of disc shaped.. round and flat, mine was to the size of a 1pence piece and about 8mm thick before it started showing!, so your friends just noticing your water retention thats all.

Unfortunatly for nolva doesnt work and only makes gyno worse for me!, and over the years the gyno got worse and had to get it cut out, but this only happens in an extreamly few people.

sitries · 25-01-2006, 05:36 PM

cheers for the post cayman. th guy who pointed it out isnt really as clued up as he thinks he is when it comes to gear - so i shouldnt of really listened to him. TBH i cant see how it can be gyno at all - i think i just panicked a bit! my nipples arent at all sore and there is no lump like the 1 you described. I think like you said - its just water retention. i did 60mg nolva when i 1st got worried and then did 20mg today.

what does every1 else think about using nolva whilst on the cycle? i dont want it to inhibit my gains - but at the same time - if the only reason ppl dont use it is because of the cost - then i will use it because i have easily enough to do the 20mg a day through the cycle and then a full PCT.

so? to use the nolva at 20mg per day or to not use it???? cost is no issue.

FAT BOY · 25-01-2006, 06:30 PM

I use nolva every cycle now. 20MG A DAY
I have run it without but same as you found out it just comes on and by then its to late.
better safe than sorry dude.

sitries · 25-01-2006, 06:41 PM

TBH i dont think mine was a gyno problem - more of a worry because of what someone had told me. because id never checked my nipples before and dint really know what i was looking for i just panicked and mistook water retention for gyno.

However i would rather be safe than sorry.

What i dont understand then is - why doesnt every1 use nolva at 20mg per dya through their cycles?? is it a cost thing? or is it because it may slightly inhibit gains. also - should i be using milk thistle whilst using nolva as it is an oral. cheers

Caymen · 25-01-2006, 08:18 PM

It wont do you any harm if you take milk thistle with it so go for it!, takin nolva througout a cycle to prevent a condition that you may not be susceptable to is just a waste of time, the rule of thumb is to have it on hand just incase you need it!, and if you dont need it this time then you have saved your nolva and spared putting and extra compound though your body unnecessaryly.

When your nipples become sensitive (Tender) and puffy start on the nolva and the syptoms will go away when its has bound to the receptors sites in around 3-4 days maybe sooner, the lumps dont form for about two weeks after feeling the first signs of sorenes so there is plenty of time to act and administer the nolva.

having tits isnt that bad...They give you somthing to play with

Just relax and enjoy your cycle.

sitries · 25-01-2006, 08:23 PM

having tits isnt that bad...They give you somthing to play with

im starting to like the idea.

24-01-2006, 11:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	gyno scare! im in my 5th week of test 500mg per week test enan cycle. a mate noticed my nipples were a bit puffy. i kinda noticed it but the thing is - i havent had any soreness or itchyness. i took 60mg of nolva just in case last night and may use it now at 10mg a day for the rest of the cycle(i wasnt using any nolva during the cycle before this). Could this be gyno????

24-01-2006, 11:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	i think it could... but it also could just be fat/water from the cycle. Given that nolva is pretty damn cheap just do 20mg/day for the rest of the cycle perhaps Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

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24-01-2006, 11:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
tahir Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: south west LDN!!! Posts: 278 Rep Power:	can u feel a slight lump near ur nipple bro, itchness and sourness is jus a early sign of it.

25-01-2006, 12:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	its hard to tell. theres nothing directly under my nipple. but about 2cm into my pec it feels like there may be a slight build up of tissue on 1 side. the thing is - iv had no itchyness or soreness whilst on cycle. also - i didnt feel mu nipples before doing the cycle so i dont really know what my nipples are meant tp feel like. i expected gyno to be painfull to touch and i expected the lumps to be small - this is neither. also - a guy who have got gyno in my gym felt it and said there noting to worry about. should i just take 20mg ED for the rest of the cycle and keep an eye on it?? its really pissing me off though because i just want to know 1 way orthe other if it is gyno?? what does ther lump look and feel like? are there any other tell tale signs?

25-01-2006, 12:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
Caymen Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: www.PureMuscle.co.uk Posts: 435 Rep Power:	trust me m8 there is no mistaking gyno!, it just doesnt suddenly creep up on you and bang you got gyno, the puffyness you have will be water acumulation in the skin!, it shows up more on the nipple because you nipples are made of realy thin skin. i can tell you how it feels because ive had it and it was painfull!, first thing stop playing with your tits because you will get some funny looks, also you will make them tender and this can be mistaken for gyno by yourself. When you start getting the first signs of gyno your nipples will be very sensitive and tighten up and become erect quite alot, (but this can happen to most guys and they never get gyno), then a few days later you will feel a pain behind the centre of the nipple or just above centre and it will feel like you have got a very sore boil behind the nipple, no lump but a feeling of soreness, then a few days and you will notice a small lump the size of half a garden pea maybe a little smaller behind the nipple, then from then on the lump will get bigger and bigger feeling like you have a large marble behind your nipples, by the time you hormone levels return to normal and the lump stops growing, then the lump will regress slightly and then you have a brand new pair of tits for the lads to stare at if there in to that kind of thing if you havent got any of those symptoms dont bother with the nolva!, i am a firm believer in only using a compound when nescersary!, and if you use nolva now when you dont need it!.. you have to use it for all your cycles because you truly dont know wether you need it or not. but seriously if you get gyno you are the first one to notice it! not your friends, because you will have pain and a lump growing under the skin!, it will be kind of disc shaped.. round and flat, mine was to the size of a 1pence piece and about 8mm thick before it started showing!, so your friends just noticing your water retention thats all. Unfortunatly for nolva doesnt work and only makes gyno worse for me!, and over the years the gyno got worse and had to get it cut out, but this only happens in an extreamly few people.

25-01-2006, 05:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	cheers for the post cayman. th guy who pointed it out isnt really as clued up as he thinks he is when it comes to gear - so i shouldnt of really listened to him. TBH i cant see how it can be gyno at all - i think i just panicked a bit! my nipples arent at all sore and there is no lump like the 1 you described. I think like you said - its just water retention. i did 60mg nolva when i 1st got worried and then did 20mg today. what does every1 else think about using nolva whilst on the cycle? i dont want it to inhibit my gains - but at the same time - if the only reason ppl dont use it is because of the cost - then i will use it because i have easily enough to do the 20mg a day through the cycle and then a full PCT. so? to use the nolva at 20mg per day or to not use it???? cost is no issue.

25-01-2006, 06:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
FAT BOY Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 878 Rep Power:	I use nolva every cycle now. 20MG A DAY I have run it without but same as you found out it just comes on and by then its to late. better safe than sorry dude.

25-01-2006, 06:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	TBH i dont think mine was a gyno problem - more of a worry because of what someone had told me. because id never checked my nipples before and dint really know what i was looking for i just panicked and mistook water retention for gyno. However i would rather be safe than sorry. What i dont understand then is - why doesnt every1 use nolva at 20mg per dya through their cycles?? is it a cost thing? or is it because it may slightly inhibit gains. also - should i be using milk thistle whilst using nolva as it is an oral. cheers

25-01-2006, 08:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Caymen Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: www.PureMuscle.co.uk Posts: 435 Rep Power:	It wont do you any harm if you take milk thistle with it so go for it!, takin nolva througout a cycle to prevent a condition that you may not be susceptable to is just a waste of time, the rule of thumb is to have it on hand just incase you need it!, and if you dont need it this time then you have saved your nolva and spared putting and extra compound though your body unnecessaryly. When your nipples become sensitive (Tender) and puffy start on the nolva and the syptoms will go away when its has bound to the receptors sites in around 3-4 days maybe sooner, the lumps dont form for about two weeks after feeling the first signs of sorenes so there is plenty of time to act and administer the nolva. having tits isnt that bad...They give you somthing to play with Just relax and enjoy your cycle.

25-01-2006, 08:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	having tits isnt that bad...They give you somthing to play with im starting to like the idea.