4 weeks of D-bol?

Andy1981iron · 20-01-2006, 04:57 PM

Maybe 4 weeks at 20-25mg a day won't do a great deal of harm but whats the point if you lose all of the gains...a total waste.

Orals are harsher on the liver and most raise LDL cholesterol levels much more than injectables.

You can include superdrol and most of the prohormones, which are particularly bad on the liver and cholesterol, worse than many oral steroids.

Why people fear injectables, especially test is bewildering, after all, test is what we produce naturally so isn't in any way a 'poison' which you are taking just an increased amount of what we already have.

Nick500 · 20-01-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by andy1981iron

Maybe 4 weeks at 20-25mg a day won't do a great deal of harm but whats the point if you lose all of the gains...a total waste.

Orals are harsher on the liver and most raise LDL cholesterol levels much more than injectables.

You can include superdrol and most of the prohormones, which are particularly bad on the liver and cholesterol, worse than many oral steroids.

Why people fear injectables, especially test is bewildering, after all, test is what we produce naturally so isn't in any way a 'poison' which you are taking just an increased amount of what we already have.

just because getting needles and secretly sticking them into your ass just feels a lot more 'real' than popping a pill along with your multivitamins from holland and barrett in the morning...

SoulCard · 20-01-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Nice

The orals are harsher on your liver yes but if your taking 20-25mg of d-bol for 4 weeks you shouldnt have anything to worry about mate. Some do short courses of a singel AAS to see how their body reacts to a certain drug, good idea mate. Nick where did you get that info - you will use up your recepters? Also short courses dont shut you down as much as longer and/or stronger courses.

Jarman, please dont listen to this...it is bad advice...

Mr. Nice, have you ever done a dbol only cycle at 25mg for 4 weeks? If so, please report...otherwise sit down because several years ago when i first got into this game i did exactly that "cycle" and it shut me down, messed up my natural test production (of course no pct, idiot!), bloated me and when i went off it i was about 1-2 pounds heavier, thats all so yall can listen to experience or theory...your choice...

FAT BOY · 20-01-2006, 06:38 PM

yup

Andy1981iron · 20-01-2006, 10:48 PM

Mr Nice...stop giving out bad advice which could potentially have a negative effect on someones health.

Don't just spout of rubbish that you know very little about.

Thank you.

Andy1981iron · 20-01-2006, 10:49 PM

Mr Nice...stop giving out bad advice which could potentially have a negative effect on someones health.

Don't just spout of rubbish that you know very little about.

Thank you.

Mr Nice · 21-01-2006, 12:19 AM

What are u talking about??????? First go read the thread again!!!! Jarman says he knows his going to lose his gains-he dosent want gains he wants to see his reaction before he goes on a 12 week cycle!!!! Next 20-25mg a day of d-bol for 4weeks isnt going to have much of a negative effect on his health!!! So Andy1981 you stop spouting rubish- play with your mobile phone!!! JAY123 YES 25MG OF D-BOL MAY SHUT HIM DOWN A BIT but its his first course so he will get away with it its only 4 weeks long- if he wants to be safe he can take some clomid-its a coincedent you have done the exact sane cycle dont you think?? I would like to have a sensible debate!! several years of experience wow you should have a wicked physique post you picks and compotition history big man. I like to read info from Chad Nicholes Hany Rambod William Llwelyne ect I think they give good advice and I would like to share ir with people at muscle chat. People like to argue with people that are write Im not offended Im flatterd.

Andy1981iron · 21-01-2006, 12:41 AM

I like to argue with people that are literate

Young Gun · 21-01-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by andy1981iron

Why people fear injectables, especially test is bewildering, after all, test is what we produce naturally so isn't in any way a 'poison' which you are taking just an increased amount of what we already have.

That isn't entirely accurate. No offence but its slightly hypocritical to point out someones bad advice which may lead to early steroid use then make steroids seem quite frivolous. Serious though no offence I think your a great guy to get on with and a great member of the site and don't want to end up pointlessly debating, just very belittling of the harshness of AAS.

'just because getting needles and secretly sticking them into your ass just feels a lot more 'real' than popping a pill along with your multivitamins from holland and barrett in the morning...'

True but I hardly think that should be very persuasive apart from people who have serious needle phobias.

'People like to argue with people that are write Im not offended Im flatterd.'

Come again? Ok one both Andy and Jay have posted pics. Two your advice was open to criticism plain and simple. No one hugely disrespected you just said they thought your advice was crap. Telling someone its a good idea to run a cycle just to see how they will respond is bad advice period.

And lastly all the guys in this thread apart from Nick500 who is a wanker

I have found to be great guys and Nick or Raz can probably tell you I'm a pretty outspoken guy and fall out with people quite easily because I tell the truth as I see it like my above post to Andy. I really like the guy and don't mean any offence but I tell it like I see it about his post. I'm hardly always right far from it but usually have an opinion so if I can't fall out with the people in this thread it amazes me how someone priding themselves on supposed niceness can?

Mr Nice · 21-01-2006, 12:57 AM

Didnt u read the thread his going to doooooooooo a 12 week cycle! he wanted to do a 4 week cycle to see how he responded before doing longer stronger cyclyes which is a greay idea. PLEASE READ THE THREADS BEFORE YOU POST A REPLY. YES just seen your picture at the side of your post where your user name is wicked body ha ha.

21-01-2006, 12:19 AM	#17 (permalink)
Mr Nice Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 226 Rep Power:	What are u talking about??????? First go read the thread again!!!! Jarman says he knows his going to lose his gains-he dosent want gains he wants to see his reaction before he goes on a 12 week cycle!!!! Next 20-25mg a day of d-bol for 4weeks isnt going to have much of a negative effect on his health!!! So Andy1981 you stop spouting rubish- play with your mobile phone!!! JAY123 YES 25MG OF D-BOL MAY SHUT HIM DOWN A BIT but its his first course so he will get away with it its only 4 weeks long- if he wants to be safe he can take some clomid-its a coincedent you have done the exact sane cycle dont you think?? I would like to have a sensible debate!! several years of experience wow you should have a wicked physique post you picks and compotition history big man. I like to read info from Chad Nicholes Hany Rambod William Llwelyne ect I think they give good advice and I would like to share ir with people at muscle chat. People like to argue with people that are write Im not offended Im flatterd. ______________________ Nice

21-01-2006, 12:57 AM	#20 (permalink)
Mr Nice Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 226 Rep Power:	Didnt u read the thread his going to doooooooooo a 12 week cycle! he wanted to do a 4 week cycle to see how he responded before doing longer stronger cyclyes which is a greay idea. PLEASE READ THE THREADS BEFORE YOU POST A REPLY. YES just seen your picture at the side of your post where your user name is wicked body ha ha. ______________________ Nice

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20-01-2006, 04:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 829 Rep Power:	Maybe 4 weeks at 20-25mg a day won't do a great deal of harm but whats the point if you lose all of the gains...a total waste. Orals are harsher on the liver and most raise LDL cholesterol levels much more than injectables. You can include superdrol and most of the prohormones, which are particularly bad on the liver and cholesterol, worse than many oral steroids. Why people fear injectables, especially test is bewildering, after all, test is what we produce naturally so isn't in any way a 'poison' which you are taking just an increased amount of what we already have.

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FAT BOY Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 921 Rep Power:	yup

20-01-2006, 10:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 829 Rep Power:	Mr Nice...stop giving out bad advice which could potentially have a negative effect on someones health. Don't just spout of rubbish that you know very little about. Thank you.

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Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 829 Rep Power:	Mr Nice...stop giving out bad advice which could potentially have a negative effect on someones health. Don't just spout of rubbish that you know very little about. Thank you.

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