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18-01-2006, 02:08 AM
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| Under Construction  Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Herts, UK Posts: 37 Rep Power:  |  first cycle help. Hi, to start i'm 27 yrs old and 5'10" and new to bbing. i'm not sure how much i weigh, roughly 11st but i've got a big rib cage but because my arms and legs are so thin i thought i'd start with a cycle for mass first and then at the end of that go on to a normal cycle. the cycle i'm thinking of is the one halfway down this page novice 1-3 (for mass) http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php do you think this is a good idea or should i just go straight onto a normal cycle first i know alot of people dont like the idea of jumping straight on the gear but i've been thinking of doing it for quite literally years and now i've just started a new job working 4 on 4 off shifts (sitting on my arse at work aswell) so i'll have plenty of time to get to the gym and rest after. i've done loads of research on builder diets so i'll be eating lots of protien and i'm also going to be using 100% mass in the morning and evening, and 100% whey mid afternoon. thanks |
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18-01-2006, 03:56 AM
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 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,166 Rep Power:  | hi m8 well first of,u say u are new???so u not been bbing ??so do you really think its a good idea to use roids???id say no way m8,first you need to have a good base to start on and i bet your diet and trainin is no where near where it needs to be for a cycle!!in fact i think its best it you go post your diet and trainin routine and im just gonna ignore this post till i see what ive asked you.but i doubt others are gonna be quite so subdued to your usein roids to "kick start" your bb'ing??? ______________________ theres a monkey on my back........hi MOD's and Admin  |
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18-01-2006, 09:06 AM
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| Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:  | In my eyes, you can consider steroids after.... 1) Three years consistent natural training 2) You have got into a routine of eating like a bodybuilder, 6+ high protein meals a day without fail. 3)Age 22+ 4)A good base to build on, nearish your natural max. Having not trained before you should be able to put on LOTS of weight easily in the first year, at least 20-30lbs. Post your proposed training routine, diet and weight and we should be able to help you further, but I don't think steroids are a wise choice, it would be a waste. |
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18-01-2006, 09:17 AM
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| Legend  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 877 Rep Power: | IF you use gear straight away you will mis out on the best gains of your life.  you will never grow as fast as when you first start training, put your food in order buy some protien powder train hard and you will grow.  To use gear from the off is nieve if you was learing to drive you wouldnt learn in a, formula one car , would you, read the posts on this site ask questions but dont make this mistake. :?  |
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18-01-2006, 02:39 PM
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| Under Construction Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Herts, UK Posts: 37 Rep Power: | ok my diet and training is as follows: 6-7am 100% mass shake 2 x egg whites 9am 3 x shredded wheat (skimmed milk) banana Noon 1 x brown bread sandwich tuna, cucumber + low fat mayo or tuna/chicken + pasta with chopped tomato 500ml skimmed milk 3pm low fat yogurt apple or grapes 6pm chicken/lean mince/pork chop rice/potato green beans/carrots 9pm 100% mass shake 2 x egg whites low fat yogurt 1/2 100% whey before work out 1/2 100% whey + 2 tbls syrup after 2 day workout rotation. 1 on 1 off Day A Bench press 4x6 Upright row 4x6 Dumbbell curl 4x6 Deadlift 3x4 REST DAY Day B Squats 4x6 Inline press 4x6 Calf raise 4x8 Chim ups 5x5 Abs I can understand peoples concerns, but i was under the impression that with proper pct and a good diet i'd keep most of what i gained aslong as i continue with the right training. thanks |
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18-01-2006, 03:05 PM
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| Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 142 Rep Power: | If you are new to bodybuilding it is pointless ding a cycle of gear you will gain just as quickly naturally at the beginning and when your natural gains stop, your receptor sites will be clean and you will be able to gain even more off a moderate gear dose, if you start now, you will need progressively more and more gear as you get bigger ______________________ I do it all in the name of science Moderator @ www.the-darkside-uk.com Site rep @ www.musclechemistry.com |
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20-01-2006, 10:34 PM
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| Under Construction Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Herts, UK Posts: 37 Rep Power: | mate theres no way i'll be able to wait a couple of years, i'm too impatient. i understand what everyones saying about doing gear straight away will reduce my protential size, but i dont want to get huge, i just want to get to a simula size to Crazycal. to be really honest i'm looking to train for a couple of months and then do a cycle and i know alot of you wont/dont agree also after reading through the old posts on here i've found a train scheme that i think would be better for me. DAY 1 - PULL 4 x 6 Deadlifts or Power Cleans Barbell Rows, Dumbbell Rows, or Wide Grip Chins Barbell Curls, Close Grip Underhand Chins, or Hammer Curls DAY 2 - PUSH 4 x 6 Incline or Flat Barbell or Dumbbell Bench Press Barbell or Dumbbell Shoulder Presses Tricep Dips or Close Grip Bench Press DAY 3 - LEGS 4 x 6 Front or Back Squats Barbell or Dumbbell Stiff Leg Deadlifts Calf Raises (3x12) - only if a seriously lagging bodypart Weighted Crunches or Weighted Hanging Leg Raises (3x12) thanks |
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