prop/dbol cycle

jimbo999

was thinking of doing a six weeks prop and dbol cycle in a month or so. what are the sides for prop like compared to test e. i didnt really get much back acne from test e but stacks from sustanon. i have heard the prop sides are the mildest of the injectible tests. can any of you guys confirm this from experience please. thanks

c8rsa

Testosterone propionate is a common oil-based injectable testosterone. The added propionate extends the activity of the testosterone but it is still comparatively much faster acting than other testosterone esters such as Cypionate and Enanthate. While cypionate and enanthate are injected weekly, propionate is most commonly injected at least every third day to keep blood levels steady. For strength and muscle mass gains, this drug is quite effective. With propionate, androgenic side effects seem somewhat less pronounced than with the other testosterones, probably due to the fact that blood levels do not build up as high. Users often report less gyno trouble, lower water retention and commonly claim to be harder on prop than with the others. This however is still a testosterone and, as with all testosterone products, androgenic side effects are unavoidable. It should also be noted that propionate is often a very painful injection. Users very regularly report swelling and noticeable pain for days after a shot.

jimbo999

thanks fror the quote mate but i was looking for some personal experience from the guys who have done it

SoulCard

LMAO...ok, ill assume that you have read the sticky profile on prop adn ill leave that part out...personally, I love prop becuase it is so fast acting and it such a great lean bulker since you dont hold water like the other tests...IMHO its a little redundant to run prop and dbol since they are both so fast acting...dbol is used at the beginnning of a cycle when using a longer ester (CYP or EN) honestly because most people dont have patience to wait for the test to kick in...depending on the brand prop can be painfull to inject for a day or two afterwards...prop must be shot every day or every other day to keep the blood levels stable so if you are not a friend with the needle, either learn to like it or go with a different test...does this help?

Nick500

jay do u think that the dbol used at the beginning of the cycles offers any benefit at all? Do you think that the overall gain would be more/less/same that if just doing 12 weeks of test for example compared to 12 weeks test with 4 weeks dbol kickstart?

devilsquest

good point nick,me and my m8 just been sayin this?

sitries

good question nick. its one that i have tried to adress before.

devilsquest

i guess the only way to know is for someone to run a dbol only cycle and keep an accurate recode???

SoulCard

honestly, i think that if you ran the dbol with 12 weeks of test, the last 8 weeks of test would enable you to keep the dbol gains, so yes, the kickstart would be effective in that sense, however I do not beleive that is not the reason most people actually use it during a cycle...the difference between the dbol start with a 12 week test cycle and a dbol only cycle is the test...

Mr Nice

Apparently prop gives u pain regarding injecting, thats it same sides as rest appart from that also half life of prop is much less then the others so if sides get to much just stop and the prop will be out of your system in a matter of days- good idea regarding short cycle. hope that helps mate.