1st cycle

liquidnitro · 10-01-2006, 02:06 AM

hey guys this is my 1st cycle, have a look see and tell me what you think:

wk 1-9 - 250mg test. enan. E4D + 200mg Equipoise E4D
wk 12-15 40mg nolvadex

nolva and finasteride will be on hand in case of emergencies. It started off really complicated so i just erased it and started all over again to keep it simple, ive got an .xls file but i cant upload it here :cry: anywho, before you guys say anything i dont want to use deca coz its dht derived and i just know im prone mood swings and stuff so im using the equipoise plus im not the leanest guy out there so it`ll give me chance to shed some of that fat. thanx guys

SoulCard · 10-01-2006, 01:55 PM

honestly i would just run the test for 12 weeks at 500/week to see how you respond to that...i understand why you want to add the EQ, but I would save it for your next cycle so you can see how you respond to the test...then run clomid and nolva for pct for at least 3 weeks...

Andy1981iron · 10-01-2006, 03:39 PM

Yeah just run the test, leave the EQ for another cycle. Finasteride isn't something you have on hand, if your concerned about the possibility of hair loss run it throughout the cycle.

Also, the finesteride will only help stop hairloss from test, EQ could still affect your hairline.

sitries · 10-01-2006, 04:25 PM

yea trigger is right. im using finasteride throughout my cycle and PCT to minimise the risk of losing my locks.

liquidnitro · 10-01-2006, 04:31 PM

ok so scratch the eq, lengthen the cycle, does anyone recommend hcg with 12 weeks? thats kind of a long time :s

FierceFrets · 10-01-2006, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidnitro

ok so scratch the eq, lengthen the cycle, does anyone recommend hcg with 12 weeks? thats kind of a long time :s

Im doing a test enenthate cycle for 12 weeks kickstarting with dbol. And yes, i will be on 500iu HCG every 4 days. Preventions better then cure!!

:twisted: Fierce

Andy1981iron · 10-01-2006, 04:46 PM

Prevention is better, but you don't have to run it.

A full PCT is the most important thing.

SoulCard · 10-01-2006, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trigger1981iron

Prevention is better, but you don't have to run it.

A full PCT is the most important thing.

i agree...hcg is not needed, but may be helpfull...others swear by it...ultimately its your choice, but i really dont care if my balls shrink...makes my **** look bigger!!

btw, 12 weeks isn't that long to run test E for...

c8rsa · 10-01-2006, 08:09 PM

Test only is ideal for a 1st cycle,save the Equipoise for your nxt cycle when you decide to use other compounds

**Bodyworks** · 10-01-2006, 08:25 PM

don't wanna use deca cos you're prone to mood swings, what do you think test will do ?

Me personally, i wouldn't use hcg during a course. some people do, i don't like the idea for several reasons.
And if you are gunna use hcg any time, have a good anti e on hand, cos that stuff increases aromatisation big time. nothing gives me gyno but hcg.

10-01-2006, 02:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
liquidnitro Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 49 Rep Power:	1st cycle hey guys this is my 1st cycle, have a look see and tell me what you think: wk 1-9 - 250mg test. enan. E4D + 200mg Equipoise E4D wk 12-15 40mg nolvadex nolva and finasteride will be on hand in case of emergencies. It started off really complicated so i just erased it and started all over again to keep it simple, ive got an .xls file but i cant upload it here :cry: anywho, before you guys say anything i dont want to use deca coz its dht derived and i just know im prone mood swings and stuff so im using the equipoise plus im not the leanest guy out there so it`ll give me chance to shed some of that fat. thanx guys

10-01-2006, 01:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 819 Rep Power:	honestly i would just run the test for 12 weeks at 500/week to see how you respond to that...i understand why you want to add the EQ, but I would save it for your next cycle so you can see how you respond to the test...then run clomid and nolva for pct for at least 3 weeks... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

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10-01-2006, 03:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	Yeah just run the test, leave the EQ for another cycle. Finasteride isn't something you have on hand, if your concerned about the possibility of hair loss run it throughout the cycle. Also, the finesteride will only help stop hairloss from test, EQ could still affect your hairline.

10-01-2006, 04:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	yea trigger is right. im using finasteride throughout my cycle and PCT to minimise the risk of losing my locks.

10-01-2006, 04:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
liquidnitro Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 49 Rep Power:	ok so scratch the eq, lengthen the cycle, does anyone recommend hcg with 12 weeks? thats kind of a long time :s

10-01-2006, 04:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	Prevention is better, but you don't have to run it. A full PCT is the most important thing.

10-01-2006, 08:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
c8rsa Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beds/Herts Posts: 202 Rep Power:	Test only is ideal for a 1st cycle,save the Equipoise for your nxt cycle when you decide to use other compounds

10-01-2006, 08:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bodyworks Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 1,009 Rep Power:	don't wanna use deca cos you're prone to mood swings, what do you think test will do ? Me personally, i wouldn't use hcg during a course. some people do, i don't like the idea for several reasons. And if you are gunna use hcg any time, have a good anti e on hand, cos that stuff increases aromatisation big time. nothing gives me gyno but hcg.