High dose and missuse

thedaddy

What's considered a high dose and missuse of steroids?
I hear about people (mainly athletes) dieing from heart attacts and having other serious problems with the cause linked to gear, but i also hear this is because of over use. How much gear do these people take? Is it the largest amounts of the strongest sh*t out there? Or just as much as someone like me just looking to put on a bit of mass as a hobey? :?

Andy1981iron

Heart attacks etc could be linked to years of heavy gear use, not directly but having constantly elevated blood pressure, high bad cholesterol could have a negative effect on health over time.

Caymen

Thats the million dollar question m8, when does your steroid therapy become abuse!, well from the start im afraid because you are using around 6.5 times more testosterone in your body from a 500mg w/k injection, it doesnt seem that bad to us but in the eyes of the medical comunity and the law its considered abuse and misuse!, the problem is the more you use the more you need next time, because your receptors down regulate, so it makes sence to increase the steroid the next time you use it, but if you increase it by only a small amount this will keep your dosages lower for longer, also swap steroids around for different benifits.

And as far as the health implications go, yes steroids do remodel the heart and in healthy people this isnt as much of a problem but in a person with an underlying heart condtiton this can spell disaster, steroids do also cause bad cholesterol increases wich also spell bad news for the heart and the rest of your cardiovasculer system, couple this with somebody who is predisposed to heart disease and heart attacks then again its a recipe for disaster, and taken over prlonged periods even in a healthy person this can lead to heart disease and heart attacks, nobodys saying that there isnt risks with using steroids but minimising those risks and waying up the risks in the first place is solely down to the person who is going to use them, so keeping educated and taking supplements to keep cholesterol lower and adding clean food and veg coupled with cardio and you will lower the risks., also there is no need for a recreational bodybuilder to run cycles back to back IMO, steroids are there to supplement your bodybuilding now and again you shouldnt have to totaly depend on them.

If you do bodybuilding for a hobby you can lower the risks, as long as you dont cycle all the time and keep dosages as low as you can and keep diet clean and ad cardio aswell, keep getting health checks and bloodwork and if anything crops up youl be better informed on how to deal with it early and prevent further damge.

thats just my 2p

finephysique

You hear about these things but how many positive links have there been? You hear about people having the exact same problems who are the same age but not athletes and they are linked to something else, there have been no confirmed deaths from steroid use that I am aware of to date, several insulin related deaths and a few diuretics related. If you look after your body, get tested regularly by your doctor and gradually increase doses where necessary, there is no necessarily dangerous dose. Regular breaks from gear are also advisable of course

c8rsa

i heard a guy was doing 1000mg a week on some gear,but he was use to the high amounts

FAT BOY

its a vicious circle the more you use the more you will have to use in the future.