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Old 05-01-2006, 10:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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quick question...what does the term "ester" mean?
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Well, I think it just means the substance attached to a raw hormone which determines whether it is fast acting, slow, or soemwhere inbetween.

A very basic description, I'm not sure of the technical terminology!
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I'm no chemist, but I believe that it has something to do with a chemical attached to the test which largely determines how quickly the hormone moves into your body from the injection site and how much of the actual testosterone hormone is actually present in the solution (oil)...for example, suspension has the most amount of actual test in it, then prop, En and cyp...which is why sus has to be shot twice a day, prop Ed and the others can be shot twice a week to keep the blood levels stable...

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kk, yea...that seems to make more sense now, thanks for the clearification guys . Jay, if sus has the most amount of test in the solution wouldn't you want to inject it twice a week to keep the blood levels stable instead of twice a day? Maybe I'm just overlooking something...I dunno, but can you explain that? Thanks a lot bro.
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exactly the opposite...in fact optimal results are had when sus is used 3x/day...because it goes into your system so quickly it is used and processed and out as quickly vs. Test En. which has a much longer half life...suspension is a closer to pure test hormone in the oil which means it is used more effeciently/rapidly and therefore you need to put it back in more frequently to keep the same level in your body...

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The ester is a substance attached to a hormone which effects the partition coefficient (solubility in oil). The shorter the length of the ester the quicker the substance hydrolises and the quiker the hormone is released and becomes active.

Longer esters are more soluble in oil so they take longer to hydrolise than shorter esters which are less soluble in oil.

Simple really
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exactly the opposite...in fact optimal results are had when sus is used 3x/day...because it goes into your system so quickly it is used and processed and out as quickly vs. Test En. which has a much longer half life...suspension is a closer to pure test hormone in the oil which means it is used more effeciently/rapidly and therefore you need to put it back in more frequently to keep the same level in your body...
sorry but have to disagree.


Test susp based on ALL the research, studies and graphs ive seen is administered commonly Every Day. If u want to get really technical about it then the best shot would be Twice a day EVENLY spaced out ie 12hrs apart.

Yes test suspension is IT but claims of needing to inject it 3times a day is simply exagaration and not science. Even twice a day isnt reaaaally necessary and ED once well be perfectly fine.


However A single shot of Test Suspension will keep your tests WAY elevated for 2 days so some even use it only once EOD. However id recommend once ED. You dont want all that scar tissue.
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