Tiredness on Test/Deca Cycle

T-Unit · 05-01-2006, 09:52 AM

got this reply from a Mod at another site. I started Nolva from week 3 due to sore nips. Interesting?

"It appears that estrogen suppression could have an impact. It's well known that menopausal woman can often suffer fatigue symptoms. Some birds also suffer the same phenomenon from PMT, where estrogen levels are lower. Yet further corroberance can be gleaned from studies that show that fatigue is occasionally a problem in users of AI's such as a-dex for breast cancer.

Estrogen plays many roles in the body, among them affecting the CNS brain neurotransmitters including serotonin which is understood to be associated with wakefulness. How this is achieved is yet to be fully understood at this time. "

T-Unit · 05-01-2006, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caymen

Ok m8, ive edited my original post.

some other peolple have said they get tired from test aswell so by the looks of it it could be either m8, is this your first cycle? or have you used something else in the past, have you had blood work done?.

Yep, first cycle (other than M1T + 4AD) no blood work. 32 Y/O 200lb

T-Unit · 05-01-2006, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay123

honestly i would say it has more to do with either diet or training schedule...i even ran deca by itself one time for like two months with no pct and didnt feel tired and stuff like that (there were also other things i wasn't feeling!

)...btw, what dosages did you run each at and what was your training schedule?

500 Test + 400 deca. Training Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday for 1 hour in the afternoon. Have gained nearly 20lb.

SoulCard · 05-01-2006, 03:04 PM

well it sounds like your not overtraining at least...i've not yet heard of nolva makin anyone fatigued like that but i certaintly dont doubt it could...i have heard of people feeling tired from just test, but that is also rare...maybe your just lucky?

...seriously tho, try to get a little more sleep if ya can, simply because you are working your body harder and it will need more sleep to recover better, etc...maybe next time try a different test alone to determine what is what...

T-Unit · 05-01-2006, 03:14 PM

thanks Jay, you have answered every post ive made. They should make you a Mod

SoulCard · 05-01-2006, 07:02 PM

LMFAO! Thanks man...jus tryin to do my part...btw, was this your first cycle?

T-Unit · 05-01-2006, 09:51 PM

yeah 1st cycle. only done M1t+4AD before.

SoulCard · 05-01-2006, 10:19 PM

...next time only do one compound...that is why it is suggested to only use test for your first time out...next time try just the test and see how it goes...

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SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 818 Rep Power:	well it sounds like your not overtraining at least...i've not yet heard of nolva makin anyone fatigued like that but i certaintly dont doubt it could...i have heard of people feeling tired from just test, but that is also rare...maybe your just lucky? ...seriously tho, try to get a little more sleep if ya can, simply because you are working your body harder and it will need more sleep to recover better, etc...maybe next time try a different test alone to determine what is what... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

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SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 818 Rep Power:	LMFAO! Thanks man...jus tryin to do my part...btw, was this your first cycle? ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

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SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 818 Rep Power:	...next time only do one compound...that is why it is suggested to only use test for your first time out...next time try just the test and see how it goes... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

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05-01-2006, 09:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
T-Unit Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Derby Posts: 58 Rep Power:	got this reply from a Mod at another site. I started Nolva from week 3 due to sore nips. Interesting? "It appears that estrogen suppression could have an impact. It's well known that menopausal woman can often suffer fatigue symptoms. Some birds also suffer the same phenomenon from PMT, where estrogen levels are lower. Yet further corroberance can be gleaned from studies that show that fatigue is occasionally a problem in users of AI's such as a-dex for breast cancer. Estrogen plays many roles in the body, among them affecting the CNS brain neurotransmitters including serotonin which is understood to be associated with wakefulness. How this is achieved is yet to be fully understood at this time. "

05-01-2006, 03:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
T-Unit Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Derby Posts: 58 Rep Power:	thanks Jay, you have answered every post ive made. They should make you a Mod

05-01-2006, 09:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
T-Unit Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Derby Posts: 58 Rep Power:	yeah 1st cycle. only done M1t+4AD before.