test vs deca

sitries

jut been on another forum looking at sum posts and came across 1 which was comparing deca vs test cycles. quiet a few ppl were saying theyv had better gains from deca only cycles than test only. what are peoples views on this? obviously i know deca alone is very suppresive and this is why many ppl dont recommend its use alone. but using hcg during the cyce would combat this.

FierceFrets

Not sure mate, Ive read that some form of test should ALWAYS be used as a base for ANY cycle and that more drugs can be added on top and long as the dose isnt bigger than the test

:twisted: Fierce

Stu21Ldn

well deca is more anabolic than testosterone so it doesnt surprise me

Caymen

Me personaly id go for test as being the better to be used alone, IMO Test and Deca side by side, you will gain more muscle on test than you would deca!, deca isnt known as a fast mass builder, its anabolic properties are about 25% more than test but this doesnt mean it will give you 25% more muscle, the added estrogen and water weight with test will also aid in muscle growth and strength, also test converts to DHT will also increase the strength, wich will ultimatley increase muscle size thru harder training etc!, were deca converts to dihydronandralone wich doesnt have this trait!. with test you dont get shut down so hard so it will be quicker to keep gains after as your Natural Test levels will come back quicker, aslo deca can make some people feel like crap when run alone, these are only some of the reasons why im not in great favour of deca only cycles, that type of thinking comes from dan ducaine and a couple of others about 10 years ago, things have moved on since then, dont get me wrong deca is the dog boll*x, but when its used in the right place....along with test.

people will always disagree on this point but in my expieriance Test is the better to run alone than Deca, this is why i will always advise people to start with test as a first cycle.

DarkAngel

I honestly dont know what the big fasination is about deca - its a womans drug!!!

Its piss poor on its own - save your money and use test if you are only going to use one drug.

Caymen

LMFAO, i try and be diplomatic and give some good evidence and you come along and say it how it should be said, lol nice one m8.

like i said i think deca is good but only when run with test, lol your answer was better tho

DarkAngel

LOL I see the swear thingy has come in and changed my first post - i did originally wrote p.ish and not wee-wee lmao

finephysique

Agreed, Deca is pish, it causes really bad shut-down its hard to recover from, the metabollites stay in your system for 18 months so you are screwed in a drug test, it adds very little mass and the list of negatives goes on. Test is king of AS and always will be, and for all the newbies out there it doesn't have very many if any sides if anything Deca has more negative sides.

Andy1981iron

More anabolic that testosterone? I don't think it is!

Stu21Ldn

well its kind of a fact