Shut down?

XXLTank

I hear people referring to shut down when on roids - what does it mean?

razg

Zero/little testosterone production due to negative feedback caused by the artificially high levels of hormones in the body.

zx9rjas.

Yup.
In essence, you take in extra testosterone or similar so your nuts stop producing testosterone.

J

SoulCard

...which is why pct is so important...to help your body recover and start producing on its own again...

zx9rjas.

Yep, and HCG is underrated IMHO. Takes no time at all for them to recover. YIPEE!

J

finephysique

I run HCG through every cycle @ 500 i.u. subcutaneous every 4-5 days from week 3 on, it keeps you from shutting down and means post cycle recovery is much easier. Don't use large amounts of HCG in one go as this is counterproductive and can permanently damage your LH and testicular function

Young Gun

Solid thread.

jarman

what is the difference between pct and HCG?

FierceFrets

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy. This is the stage of the cycle where you are coming off the steroids and helping your body to sort itself out. Many say that it is not required for short courses but the majority (myself included) dont see it as an option; its a nessecity! It involve using drugs to control the production of estrogen, how it binds to receptors in the body, and getting the nuts back up to scratch (see below).

HCG = Human Chorionic Gonadotropin. When you take steroids its very, very common (pretty certain actually) for your natural test will be suppressed. You may have seen this referred to as 'Shut Down'. This happens due to a mechanism in the body that controls the creation on testosterone. This is how it works (without the science!).

Imagine a sensor in your brain that asks every so often "does my body have enough test?". In a normal, clean body, sometimes the natural test will have been used and its time for the body to produce some more. If this is the case, the brain will release a hormone called LH (it has a long name too ) This will travel to the nuts and they will get the message that there is not enough test in the system. They will therefor produce the required amout!

For someone on gear, the system will work the same but with a different result. EVERY single time that sensor in the brain asks "Do i have enough test?" the body will respond with "Hell YEAH!" (as there could be 3 to 4 times the amount it should have). Therefor the body never creates the LH hormone, in turn it never travels to the nuts and therefor the nuts dont produce any test! This is what it means to be 'shut down'. This can lead to a hardcore deactivation that ends up with your little fellas getting littler! They shrink due to the fact that they are not being used.

To avoid this happening, steroid users use HCG, a substance that mimmicks the actions of the LH hormone (which is not being created anymore). The HCG is then responible for telling the nuts to produce test!

The bottom line is that it no longer matters that the body thinks there is enough test in the system, the HCG will guarentee that the nuts will do some work and therefor NOT get 'shut down'.

This technique is used so that a steroid user can make the change from the gear providing the test to the nuts providing the test go a bit better. The quicker the nuts are back online, the more muscle you can expect to keep from your cycle.

Hope this helps in your learning mate.

:twisted: Fierce

Nick500

great post fierce