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Old 26-12-2005, 03:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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ok guys heres a question no one seems to be answering,i know the normal is 250 every 5 days,but whats the lowest shot you could use before its a complete waste of time and it just shuts your own bodys system down?ill be doin a dbol cycle startin on the 3rd,it will be a tappered one disspite what most ppl think to this as it will help me save almost all my gains,and on top of this i was thinkin of runnin test at 100 every 5 days,the hope is that ill not get the water retention and any gains i do make will be much more kepper able?so lets here your thoughts on this guys :?:

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Old 26-12-2005, 04:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i cant comment on ur question, but im currently on prop and tren 100mg eod for both,
im not gaining alot of water retention which is great, i find that for me personally the prop doesn't bring high amounts of water retention, wen cycled correctly,
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how long u looking to do this d-bol and enanthate cycle for mate?
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Old 26-12-2005, 05:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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dbol at 6 weeks as this
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1 and 6 20ml
2 and 5 25ml
3 and 4 35ml
and test at 100 every 5 days for 50 days
all designed to gain with less water retention,and for keepin gains better?well thats the idea any way

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im on me 5th week of prop n tren, and im definatly not noticeably puffy,
u could just do the d-bol and if ur alright with frequent injections do 100mg eod, of prop,
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imo doing enanthate for 50 days isn't really enough i wud run it at least 10 weeks cause its slow acting, the prop quicks in very quickly thats why i like it
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yer wish id got some in now but think ill go with this cycle as a starter then go for prop and sust next time round

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devil, if you havent started yet, hold off and lets figure it all out...you really want your first cycle to be solid, to take advantage of all those "virgin receptors"...your body generally produces 50-75mg of test/week, so taking 100 every 5 days will still be enough to shut your endogeneous production down (as will the dbol, probablly though)...and if your using test E, it wont keep water retention down since test E is known to retain water...if your worried about water retention, 10-20mg of nolva/day or some armidex (.25-.5/day) should do the trick, not test...and yes, that kinda test should be run at least 12 weeks...

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ok well i got a load more test on its way,so hows 200 every 5 days for 12 weeks with the dbol to kick start it all of,i have the nolva to so hows that sound?the other reason i was keepin the dosage down is meny moons ago when i last ran a cycle my body acted like id doubled up on all the gear,i grow like fu@k!!!!so i guess i was allowin for how well my body does on gear

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if you respond well to the gear, that is good!...IMO, 200mg/week isnt really enough to even see results from...go to 250 2x/week and use the dbol jump start, run it for 12 weeks and just enjoy!...use the nolva throughout your cycle to help with the bloat, but honestly only 200/week doesnt really cross the effectiveness threshold...

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