what is the best PCT

sitries · 14-12-2005, 07:19 PM

Im just about to take the plunge and start my 1st cycle of 500mg test enanthate and 400mg deca for 10 weeks. Im going to be taking nolva for PCT. Is there anything else that i need to take 1 - for PCT? 2 - during the cycle? for example hcg, milk thistle, fish oil etc etc ? i want to take as many precautions both duringthe cycle and for PCT. Cheers in advance guys.

FierceFrets · 14-12-2005, 07:22 PM

Are you gonna be using HCG thoughout to stop your nuts switching off? I am gonna do a test and dbol cycle for 10 weeks and plan to take about 250iu's of HCG every 4 days. That way I should not get shut down. That means that when the cycle is over my nuts will be ready to go and therefor keep more of the gains.

:twisted: Fierce

sitries · 14-12-2005, 07:31 PM

yeah - that sounds like a plan. how do you administer the hcg? where will it have to be stored (under my bed with the roids?) ? also -whats the cost? i think i will definately use the hcg during the cycle, but iv heard before than its not o be used during PCT - is that correct.

Also - if yor going to be using hcg will you syill be needing as much nolva after PCT or will you use lower doses at a shorter period of time?

sorry 4 all the questions, but i just wana make sure i get everything right.

SoulCard · 14-12-2005, 07:45 PM

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sitries · 15-12-2005, 03:58 PM

cheers mate. an interesting read. i think i will use hcg, as recommended in the article.

with reference to PCT then - i will b using nolva. but how muc and for how long after the cycle. i undersand that i will need to wait until the deca is out of my system before starting. so i will finish injecting at week ten and then start pct 4weeks after the last injection??? and then how long will i take the nolva for and at what dosage. help much appreciated. te problem is that i am going to Australia at the end of the cycle - week 10 so i need to know how much nolva to take with me andthe dosage info.

Nick500 · 15-12-2005, 04:37 PM

sitries,

i'm not entirely sure what time u should start the nolva but its definitely not 4 weeks, probably more like 2 days. i would think 60mg for the first day, 40mgs for 8 - 10 days, then 20 mgs for 15 - 20 days.

Probably best to combine the AI and SERM, so get yourself some reboundXT or something like that

Nick

SoulCard · 15-12-2005, 06:11 PM

here ya go...times to start pct..copied and pasted from another site...

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

...as far as doses, what nick said is right on the money...

Stu21Ldn · 15-12-2005, 06:14 PM

Aromasin and Nolva is supposed to be excellent

sitries · 15-12-2005, 08:01 PM

nice 1 guys - help is much appreciated. only thing im really concerned about is mixing up the hcg for use during the cycle. sounds a bit confusing. plus im living with my mum at the moment - think she may wonder what some dodgy substances im storing inthe fridge!

14-12-2005, 07:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	what is the best PCT Im just about to take the plunge and start my 1st cycle of 500mg test enanthate and 400mg deca for 10 weeks. Im going to be taking nolva for PCT. Is there anything else that i need to take 1 - for PCT? 2 - during the cycle? for example hcg, milk thistle, fish oil etc etc ? i want to take as many precautions both duringthe cycle and for PCT. Cheers in advance guys.

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15-12-2005, 04:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	sitries, i'm not entirely sure what time u should start the nolva but its definitely not 4 weeks, probably more like 2 days. i would think 60mg for the first day, 40mgs for 8 - 10 days, then 20 mgs for 15 - 20 days. Probably best to combine the AI and SERM, so get yourself some reboundXT or something like that Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

15-12-2005, 06:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 819 Rep Power:	here ya go...times to start pct..copied and pasted from another site... Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration Deca: 21 days after last injection Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration Equipoise: 21 days after last injection Fina: 3 days after last injection Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection Sustanon: 18 days after last injection Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration ...as far as doses, what nick said is right on the money... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

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14-12-2005, 07:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
FierceFrets Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 704 Rep Power:	Are you gonna be using HCG thoughout to stop your nuts switching off? I am gonna do a test and dbol cycle for 10 weeks and plan to take about 250iu's of HCG every 4 days. That way I should not get shut down. That means that when the cycle is over my nuts will be ready to go and therefor keep more of the gains. :twisted: Fierce

14-12-2005, 07:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	yeah - that sounds like a plan. how do you administer the hcg? where will it have to be stored (under my bed with the roids?) ? also -whats the cost? i think i will definately use the hcg during the cycle, but iv heard before than its not o be used during PCT - is that correct. Also - if yor going to be using hcg will you syill be needing as much nolva after PCT or will you use lower doses at a shorter period of time? sorry 4 all the questions, but i just wana make sure i get everything right.

15-12-2005, 03:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	cheers mate. an interesting read. i think i will use hcg, as recommended in the article. with reference to PCT then - i will b using nolva. but how muc and for how long after the cycle. i undersand that i will need to wait until the deca is out of my system before starting. so i will finish injecting at week ten and then start pct 4weeks after the last injection??? and then how long will i take the nolva for and at what dosage. help much appreciated. te problem is that i am going to Australia at the end of the cycle - week 10 so i need to know how much nolva to take with me andthe dosage info.

15-12-2005, 06:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	Aromasin and Nolva is supposed to be excellent

15-12-2005, 08:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	nice 1 guys - help is much appreciated. only thing im really concerned about is mixing up the hcg for use during the cycle. sounds a bit confusing. plus im living with my mum at the moment - think she may wonder what some dodgy substances im storing inthe fridge!