deca cycle

sitries · 11-11-2005, 08:33 PM

after months of deliberation iv decided not to risk the androgenic sides of a steroid such as test, so im going to go with a simple deca only cycle. i basicallt dont want to risk triggering MPB. from what i hear of deca - it will give me good size and strength gains with a low risk of sides. i know that most ppl say test should be base of a cycle - but whats wrong with taking deca alone??

can anyone suggest the best structure for the cycle ? i want to use a low dosage to avoid the dreaded deca ****. i realise that i will get shutdown - so which ancillary drug should i use to bring back up nat test production? pregnyl?

what PCT will i need ie nolva? clomid? pregnyl?

whats the bes brand to use - iv heard organon. also i have a m8 who lives in corfu and says he can get it v cheap over te counter.

also i was maybe thinking of taking superdrol 4 the 1st 4weeks of the cycle as it is less androgenic than dinabol. is this recommended?

any help will be much appreciated. cheers guys.

redspy · 11-11-2005, 11:19 PM

A Deca only cycle isn't a very good idea. Deca is highly suppressive to the HPTA and without the addition of test there's a risk of deca ****, even at very low doses. Test should base of your cycle and if you're concerned about MPB use a 5AR blocker such as Proscar, this will reduce DHT conversion.

HCG will help reduce suppression, but deca's long half-life combined with its long acting metabolites can be problematic.

At some test cypionate/enanthate to your cycle along with Proscar (Finasteride) and you'll be fine.

For PCT 4 weeks of Nolva will be fine, do not use HCG during PCT at it's suppressive.

Good luck.

Andy1981iron · 12-11-2005, 02:59 AM

My first and only cycle was deca dianabol, made excellent gains.

But, I must add, most of the gains were from the d-bol. When I stopped the d-bol the deca just seemed to maintain the mass.

Sex drive down a bit but no 'deca ****'

sitries · 12-11-2005, 11:00 AM

bearing what you have said in mind redspy. would it be ok to run 250mg test and 200mg deca per week then. will i still make good gains from this? am i right in thinking that the lower dosages i take - the less chance i will expwerience the unwanted MPB side effect? (it is the only side effect im concerned about) - or will the risk of losing my hair be equal if i take eather 500mg.

also - how would i run the hcg - ie how often through the 10 week cycle would i inject it and at what dosage? do i inject it the same as i would the deca and test ?

i must admit that my origional idea was to run test and deca and use finasteride to decrease the risk of hair loss - but i was put off when someone told me that finasteride shoulnt be used with none DHT derived steroids. is there any truth to this or can finasteride be used with all steroids?

Andy1981iron · 12-11-2005, 03:42 PM

Finasteride should be used with test only cycles. If used with deca it will make you lose even more hair!

sitries · 13-11-2005, 12:33 AM

whats the reasoning beyhing this? it doesnt say you shouldnt take it with deca on the product info. i think its you trigger who i heard it from before. has anyone else heard that yo cant use finasteride with deca?

11-11-2005, 08:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 637 Rep Power:	deca cycle after months of deliberation iv decided not to risk the androgenic sides of a steroid such as test, so im going to go with a simple deca only cycle. i basicallt dont want to risk triggering MPB. from what i hear of deca - it will give me good size and strength gains with a low risk of sides. i know that most ppl say test should be base of a cycle - but whats wrong with taking deca alone?? can anyone suggest the best structure for the cycle ? i want to use a low dosage to avoid the dreaded deca ****. i realise that i will get shutdown - so which ancillary drug should i use to bring back up nat test production? pregnyl? what PCT will i need ie nolva? clomid? pregnyl? whats the bes brand to use - iv heard organon. also i have a m8 who lives in corfu and says he can get it v cheap over te counter. also i was maybe thinking of taking superdrol 4 the 1st 4weeks of the cycle as it is less androgenic than dinabol. is this recommended? any help will be much appreciated. cheers guys.

11-11-2005, 11:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
redspy Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Way Out West Posts: 578 Rep Power:	A Deca only cycle isn't a very good idea. Deca is highly suppressive to the HPTA and without the addition of test there's a risk of deca ****, even at very low doses. Test should base of your cycle and if you're concerned about MPB use a 5AR blocker such as Proscar, this will reduce DHT conversion. HCG will help reduce suppression, but deca's long half-life combined with its long acting metabolites can be problematic. At some test cypionate/enanthate to your cycle along with Proscar (Finasteride) and you'll be fine. For PCT 4 weeks of Nolva will be fine, do not use HCG during PCT at it's suppressive. Good luck. ______________________ IronArena.com

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12-11-2005, 02:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 829 Rep Power:	My first and only cycle was deca dianabol, made excellent gains. But, I must add, most of the gains were from the d-bol. When I stopped the d-bol the deca just seemed to maintain the mass. Sex drive down a bit but no 'deca ****'

12-11-2005, 11:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 637 Rep Power:	bearing what you have said in mind redspy. would it be ok to run 250mg test and 200mg deca per week then. will i still make good gains from this? am i right in thinking that the lower dosages i take - the less chance i will expwerience the unwanted MPB side effect? (it is the only side effect im concerned about) - or will the risk of losing my hair be equal if i take eather 500mg. also - how would i run the hcg - ie how often through the 10 week cycle would i inject it and at what dosage? do i inject it the same as i would the deca and test ? i must admit that my origional idea was to run test and deca and use finasteride to decrease the risk of hair loss - but i was put off when someone told me that finasteride shoulnt be used with none DHT derived steroids. is there any truth to this or can finasteride be used with all steroids?

12-11-2005, 03:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 829 Rep Power:	Finasteride should be used with test only cycles. If used with deca it will make you lose even more hair!

13-11-2005, 12:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 637 Rep Power:	whats the reasoning beyhing this? it doesnt say you shouldnt take it with deca on the product info. i think its you trigger who i heard it from before. has anyone else heard that yo cant use finasteride with deca?