New Cycle. Rapid strength + muscle gain. Please review.

evangelionpunk · 15-10-2005, 09:10 AM

Thinking of running

Week1-4
Trenbolene ~525mg(75mg each day)
Test ~700mg(100mg each day) - 4 in 1 blend(eg Sus250)

Week5-7
Nolvadex
Clomid

I think this stack will be pretty cool in regards to rapid strength and muscle gain whilst losing BF. And with the gains tren and the blend test gives the gains are easier to keep though doing all the other things (creatine, sleep, supps, easier workouts etc will keep more muscle).

I think with a decent diet, proper exercise and loads of sleep I should be able to gain about 25lbs muscle mass.

What do u think?

Should i run it longer (maybe the sus?) ?

Should i use HCG?

axalotl2000 · 15-10-2005, 09:13 AM

add some d boll or deca to it

evangelionpunk · 15-10-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by axalotl2000

add some d boll or deca to it

Really?

I know loads of people love Deca etc but im also looking for mass I can keep after the cycle. I have been thinking of deca though....

Tren+Test is supposed to be synergistic and definately makes you lose BF too.

Stu21Ldn · 15-10-2005, 10:26 AM

4 weeks of sust wont do much, switch it for prop or do a longer cycle.

I take it you've used tren before?

evangelionpunk · 15-10-2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu21Ldn

4 weeks of sust wont do much, switch it for prop or do a longer cycle.

I take it you've used tren before?

How long would u suggest I use sus for then? 6-8weeks?

Yes i have once before but on its own.

evangelionpunk · 16-10-2005, 03:41 PM

been thinking of switching the test for prop or suspension.

ANYONE can u tell me what the pains like? I hear its painful but I dont know since ive only ever tried test eth + sus . Is it like a bee sting everytime? Will u be able to workout or sit down on your glutes or will it be too painful?

Ive also been reading and the best gains are shown to be via test susp because its fast and pure(loads of high 100% amounts compared to ester).

khany · 16-10-2005, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axalotl2000

add some d boll or deca to it

wouldnt bother with the deca as your using tren anyways which is supressive as it is

test prop 100mg ed with the tren would be a good combo

evangelionpunk · 17-10-2005, 01:41 AM

finally:

What about adding Clenbuterol to the mix?

Will i limit my lean muscle bulk up if i use this too?

Does Clenbuterol cause a 10% increase in MBR on its own?

khany · 17-10-2005, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evangelionpunk

finally:

What about adding Clenbuterol to the mix?

Will i limit my lean muscle bulk up if i use this too?

Does Clenbuterol cause a 10% increase in MBR on its own?

wouldnt bother with the clen save it for pct and cutting imho

SoulCard · 17-10-2005, 08:07 PM

IMHO do not run any cycle less than 10-12 weeks...so i would say use whichever test you want for that long with the tren...i would recommend prop over suspension just because of the injection frequency and half life issue...and yes you can add clen mid cycle for a couple weeks and then for another 2 weeks at the beginning of pct to help you keep your calories high...and yes, some prop can hurt depending on the BA content in it, but no pain no gain man!

15-10-2005, 09:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
evangelionpunk Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 91 Rep Power:	New Cycle. Rapid strength + muscle gain. Please review. Thinking of running Week1-4 Trenbolene ~525mg(75mg each day) Test ~700mg(100mg each day) - 4 in 1 blend(eg Sus250) Week5-7 Nolvadex Clomid I think this stack will be pretty cool in regards to rapid strength and muscle gain whilst losing BF. And with the gains tren and the blend test gives the gains are easier to keep though doing all the other things (creatine, sleep, supps, easier workouts etc will keep more muscle). I think with a decent diet, proper exercise and loads of sleep I should be able to gain about 25lbs muscle mass. What do u think? Should i run it longer (maybe the sus?) ? Should i use HCG?

17-10-2005, 08:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 819 Rep Power:	IMHO do not run any cycle less than 10-12 weeks...so i would say use whichever test you want for that long with the tren...i would recommend prop over suspension just because of the injection frequency and half life issue...and yes you can add clen mid cycle for a couple weeks and then for another 2 weeks at the beginning of pct to help you keep your calories high...and yes, some prop can hurt depending on the BA content in it, but no pain no gain man! ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

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15-10-2005, 09:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
axalotl2000 Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 202 Rep Power:	add some d boll or deca to it

15-10-2005, 10:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	4 weeks of sust wont do much, switch it for prop or do a longer cycle. I take it you've used tren before?

16-10-2005, 03:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
evangelionpunk Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 91 Rep Power:	been thinking of switching the test for prop or suspension. ANYONE can u tell me what the pains like? I hear its painful but I dont know since ive only ever tried test eth + sus . Is it like a bee sting everytime? Will u be able to workout or sit down on your glutes or will it be too painful? Ive also been reading and the best gains are shown to be via test susp because its fast and pure(loads of high 100% amounts compared to ester).

17-10-2005, 01:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
evangelionpunk Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 91 Rep Power:	finally: What about adding Clenbuterol to the mix? Will i limit my lean muscle bulk up if i use this too? Does Clenbuterol cause a 10% increase in MBR on its own?