Next cycle advise on hcg and clomid pls

Denre · 24-09-2005, 01:27 PM

Going to start my next stack next week, never done hcg or clomid b4 but looks like i should be. I have test enanthate was looking at 2 shots a week and 6 dbol a day, not sure about the clomid and hcg tho, when how much to take etc. Also hcg i have is in 2500iu amps so how would you only take 500iu etc and store the rest. Thanks guys

Caz84 · 24-09-2005, 06:14 PM

Hey Denre,
Well you should inject 500iu of hcg every four days from the beginning of your cycle up to no longer than 10 days after your last shot of test enanthate. This should be enough to avoid testicular atrophy, but you must discontinue this during pct as this is when you want your bodies own lh to take over from hcg in stimulating your testes to produce testosterone.

Then for pct, which begins two weeks after your last shot, take 300mg of clomid on the first day, then 10mmg a day for two weeks, and finally 50mg a day for two weeks. This should then raise lh levels to stimulate testosterone production.

To reconstitute the hcg, you will have to purchase bacteriostatic water and so sterile vials. You would then mix 5ml of the bacteriostatic water to the hcg powder, which will give you 500iu hcg per 1ml. Then store the rest in a fridge.

Hope this helps.

redspy · 24-09-2005, 09:55 PM

Good advice Caz, although I personally prefer nolva to clomid.

Caz84 · 24-09-2005, 10:47 PM

Thanks redspy.

I personally have always ran them in conjunction at that seems to work for me. However, when i am performing an extended pct i always discontinue the clomid after one month because of the possible side effects, and continue with nolvadex alone untill i am satisfied that my natural test levels are back to normal again.

Denre · 25-09-2005, 05:19 PM

Thanks Caz the HCG i have came with mixing solution so are you saying bin that and mix it differently? also the clomis is 50mg tabs so how would i take 10 mg just by cutting the tabs? thanks

Caz84 · 25-09-2005, 06:55 PM

Sorry, just noticed a mistake, i meant 100mg clomid. So 300mg day 1, 100mg/day for two weeks, and then 50mg/day for two weeks.

Im not saying bin the solution, but you will have to purchase more of it. So you will have to buy more bacteriostatic water to mix with, and steril vials to store it.

Denre · 26-09-2005, 05:46 PM

thanks Caz ok clomid is sorted but do you know where i can get some water and sterile vials? thanks

Caz84 · 26-09-2005, 07:19 PM

You can purchase bw and sterile vials from www.getpinz.com.

24-09-2005, 01:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Denre Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power:	Next cycle advise on hcg and clomid pls Going to start my next stack next week, never done hcg or clomid b4 but looks like i should be. I have test enanthate was looking at 2 shots a week and 6 dbol a day, not sure about the clomid and hcg tho, when how much to take etc. Also hcg i have is in 2500iu amps so how would you only take 500iu etc and store the rest. Thanks guys

24-09-2005, 09:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
redspy Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Way Out West Posts: 578 Rep Power:	Good advice Caz, although I personally prefer nolva to clomid. ______________________ IronArena.com

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24-09-2005, 06:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Caz84 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 45 Rep Power:	Hey Denre, Well you should inject 500iu of hcg every four days from the beginning of your cycle up to no longer than 10 days after your last shot of test enanthate. This should be enough to avoid testicular atrophy, but you must discontinue this during pct as this is when you want your bodies own lh to take over from hcg in stimulating your testes to produce testosterone. Then for pct, which begins two weeks after your last shot, take 300mg of clomid on the first day, then 10mmg a day for two weeks, and finally 50mg a day for two weeks. This should then raise lh levels to stimulate testosterone production. To reconstitute the hcg, you will have to purchase bacteriostatic water and so sterile vials. You would then mix 5ml of the bacteriostatic water to the hcg powder, which will give you 500iu hcg per 1ml. Then store the rest in a fridge. Hope this helps.

24-09-2005, 10:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Caz84 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 45 Rep Power:	Thanks redspy. I personally have always ran them in conjunction at that seems to work for me. However, when i am performing an extended pct i always discontinue the clomid after one month because of the possible side effects, and continue with nolvadex alone untill i am satisfied that my natural test levels are back to normal again.

25-09-2005, 05:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Denre Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power:	Thanks Caz the HCG i have came with mixing solution so are you saying bin that and mix it differently? also the clomis is 50mg tabs so how would i take 10 mg just by cutting the tabs? thanks

25-09-2005, 06:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Caz84 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 45 Rep Power:	Sorry, just noticed a mistake, i meant 100mg clomid. So 300mg day 1, 100mg/day for two weeks, and then 50mg/day for two weeks. Im not saying bin the solution, but you will have to purchase more of it. So you will have to buy more bacteriostatic water to mix with, and steril vials to store it.

26-09-2005, 05:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Denre Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power:	thanks Caz ok clomid is sorted but do you know where i can get some water and sterile vials? thanks

26-09-2005, 07:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Caz84 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 45 Rep Power:	You can purchase bw and sterile vials from www.getpinz.com.