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Old 21-09-2005, 12:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I`ve done my research guys and i`ve come up with a cycle plan tell me what you think:

Week Anavar (mg/day) Andriol (capsule/day)
1 10 -
2 10 -
3 10 4
4 25 4
5 25 6
6 25 6
7 25 6
8 - 6

the cycle would cost me about 400pounds pricey but well worth it i think no probs there.

I`ve been at it for 2yrs made some good gains but i think its time i had some help, this seems to me a pretty good beginners cycle with no injectables.

I train 2days on 1day off chest/bicepts, back/tricepts, delts/traps, bi/tri, legs.

I have 3 shakes a day one in the morning one after training and one at night. I only eat 3 times a day but manage to get some snacks in.

No cardio currently but im working on that, what do you think guys?
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Old 21-09-2005, 12:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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man i know im new here and i dont wanna flame ya too bad, but i have a real hard time believing you have actually researched this cycle...and if so you really need to find some other sources...virtually everything that can go wrong is in that cycle...get some test, prep for pct and do it right...and you need to eat WAY more that you are...jus my opinion...anyone else?

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why dont you like it?
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Old 21-09-2005, 12:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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which part...the oral only part?...not effective...anavar is not as bad on your liver as others, but it is still a 17aa drug and will produce minimal gains at best...and at the risk of sounding repetitive on this board...i dont like any cycle that is not test based!

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Soz the table didnt come out right

Week
1 - 10mg/day anavar
2 - 10mg/day anavar
3 - 10mg/day anavar + 120mg/day Andriol
4 - 25mg/day anavar + 120mg/day Andriol
5 - 25mg/day anavar + 240mg/day Andriol
6 - 25mg/day anavar + 240mg/day Andriol
7 - 25mg/day anavar + 240mg/day Andriol

Andriol IS a test. it`s testosterone undecanoate.

Even though anavar is a little liver toxic the andriol isnt, totally lymphatic absorbtion. Will milk thistle help?

ANDRIOL
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Substance: testosterone undecanoate

Trade Names:
Andriol 40 mg caps.; Organon CH, NL, PL, G, A, PT HU, Thailand; Ravasin
Androxon 40 mg caps.; Organon NO, Brazil
Panteston 40 mg caps.; Organon FI, FR
Restandol 40 mg caps.; Organon DK, GB, GR
Undestor 40 mg caps.; Organon B, 5, BG, CZ
Virigen 40 mg caps.; Organon TK

Andriol is a revolutionary steroid because, besides methyltestosterone, it is the only effective oral testosterone compound. Testosterone itself, if taken orally, is ineffective since it is reabsorbed through the portal vein (1) and immediately deactivated by the liver. The substance testosterone undecanoate contained in Andriol, however, is reabsorbed from the intestine through the lymphatic system, thus bypassing the liver and becoming effective. The liver function is not affected by this. Andriol aromatizes only minimally, meaning that only a very small part of the substance can be converted into estrogen, since the dihydrotestosterone does not aromatize. The users of Andriol therefore do not experience feminization symptoms such as gynecomastia or increased body fat. Andriol's non-aromatizing quality consists of the fact that the body's own hormone production is only affected after a long-term administration of very high dosages. Andriol should be the perfect steroid; however, this is not the case.

The disadvantage of Andriol is that it only becomes effective if taken in high doses. Even if a dose of 200 mg of Andriol/day is taken, the testosterone level in the blood is still too low for a bodybuilder to gain strength and muscle growth. The capsules, therefore, are effective for only a few hours so that 6-7 capsules, that is 240- 280 mg (minimum), must be taken daily to achieve good results comparable to those of injectable compounds. This, however, puts the athlete in a dosage range which begins to influence the hormone production and the compound now more readily converts into estrogen. Such a dose can also manifest itself in a higher retention of sodium and water. This is one factor which competing athletes must consider.

Another disadvantage is Andriol's high price. A package with 60 capsules costs approximately $80 and the minimum daily dose of 6-7 capsules thus costs almost $8. For those athletes who would like to try Andriol 8 capsules (320 mg daily) should be taken. The capsules should be taken three times daily (approximately every 8 hours) after meals so that the substance can be properly reabsorbed. However, even this high dosage does not guarantee satisfactory results. Those of you who believe that you need even higher doses should then consider that it might be more sensible to switch to the injectable testosterone.

The Andriol/ Oxandrolone stack gives athletes who do not yet have much experience with steroids a fairly large strength increase and also often substantial muscle growth. Andriol is quickly eliminated by the body it should also be considered for use before competitions requiring doping tests.

Women should avoid Andriol since the androgenic component-common with testosterone-is also strongly developed in this compound. Andriol intake can occasionally lead to high blood pressure, retention of fluids, acne, sexual overstimulation, and, in women, the well-known virilization symptoms.

Andriol should be stored in a cool place (6 - 15 C), preferably in the refrigerator. Since the capsules are extremely sensitive to heat they can easily melt into an undefinable shape if left in direct sunlight, e.g. in a car.
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yes, milk thistle may help and is recommended for whenever you run any oral steroid...the andriol you have listed doesn't appear to reach the effective threshold in the profile...jus seems like a lot of money to spend to get partial, minimal or no results...

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did you get that cycle from womens steroid board?

A goldfish would struggle to put on weight with 10mg of anavar you need at least 50mg everday
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If your paying 400 quid for that then you are getting royaly screwed
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i dont aprove of it.

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youd be alot better off using a good injectable test and dbol mate, i dont see the point in useing anavar its just not potent enough.

for 400 you could get 4 courses of this for the price of your 1.
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