Some help would be great

billyjab · 20-09-2005, 06:41 AM

Hi I am new and need some good advice about my first cycle. I really only want to do steroids one time, because I keep myself in great shape normally, but some good gains one time I think would help alot. I originally started wanting to do primo alone, but this dude ended up getting me a bottle of test cyp (2000mg) instead. I know the pharmacy he got it compounded from so I know it is the real thing. Now I am stuck with it, so I know that I will need some other things like some nolvadex and since I am stuck with it, I was thinkin about getting some winstrol tabs. I don't even know if I can get any though. As I said I am very cautious about side effects, so any help would be a lifesaver. I am 23 and 6'0 185. The dude who got me this stuff doesn't know anything either so this place is my last hope. Feel free to email me too, I guess whatever works best. Thanks everyone.

T@Z · 20-09-2005, 10:34 PM

you could run the test cypionate with winstrol, it will give you solid mass gains. Cypionate is almost the same ester as enanthate, but it has 7 instead of 8 connecting receptors. Therefore there's a lower working amount of test in it, but that's just some additional info.
I would run it like this:
Week 1-10: 400mg test cyp a week.
Week 8-13: 40mg winny a day.
Week 14: PCT: 10 days of Nolva @40mg, after that, 10 days of Nolva @20mg.

Test cyp has a long acting ester, so you can only start your PCT after 3 weeks. The winny will help you to hold the gains better and it will make you nice and ripped.

Just my 2cc's

billyjab · 21-09-2005, 08:21 PM

So I don't have to worry about side effects during the use of the test? I guess I don't really get what happens for side effects, if I take Nolv as post cycle, will it reverse anything bad?

Stu21Ldn · 21-09-2005, 09:17 PM

2000mg of cyp isnt really enough to do a cycle with

rtlashley · 23-09-2005, 11:53 AM

Does any one know where I can get some 1-ad and have it sent to the states?

Nick500 · 23-09-2005, 12:09 PM

what relevance does that have to this thread rtlashley

divie · 23-09-2005, 05:02 PM

Billy jab, you must do some reaserch on possible sides so you can help prevent them happening or at least know what to do if sides occur.For an example, some people on high doses ie 750mg-1g+ can get bitch tits (gyno) during a cycle but this can be treated relatevly quickly and easily if you catch it quick, however if you dont no about sides like theeses you will not know how to combat it or even realise the sides before its too late to reverse.
Read around some posts in the steroid section m8,

all the best divie

billyjab · 23-09-2005, 08:13 PM

Hey thanks guys, yea I was mainly worried about the gyno. I will read around here...thanks

SoulCard · 23-09-2005, 08:26 PM

some are more prone to gyno than others..however it is far better to be prepared than hope you are one of the ones who arent 8)

khany · 23-09-2005, 09:40 PM

Funny thing is gyno , me personaly have run numerous cycles with no probs at all but on my last cycle i got itchy nips for the first time was very suprised maybe it wasnt gyno maybe it was i dont no for sure but sure was glad to have plenty of nolva and prov in my draw

20-09-2005, 06:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
billyjab Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 13 Rep Power:	Some help would be great Hi I am new and need some good advice about my first cycle. I really only want to do steroids one time, because I keep myself in great shape normally, but some good gains one time I think would help alot. I originally started wanting to do primo alone, but this dude ended up getting me a bottle of test cyp (2000mg) instead. I know the pharmacy he got it compounded from so I know it is the real thing. Now I am stuck with it, so I know that I will need some other things like some nolvadex and since I am stuck with it, I was thinkin about getting some winstrol tabs. I don't even know if I can get any though. As I said I am very cautious about side effects, so any help would be a lifesaver. I am 23 and 6'0 185. The dude who got me this stuff doesn't know anything either so this place is my last hope. Feel free to email me too, I guess whatever works best. Thanks everyone.

20-09-2005, 10:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
T@Z Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 63 Rep Power:	you could run the test cypionate with winstrol, it will give you solid mass gains. Cypionate is almost the same ester as enanthate, but it has 7 instead of 8 connecting receptors. Therefore there's a lower working amount of test in it, but that's just some additional info. I would run it like this: Week 1-10: 400mg test cyp a week. Week 8-13: 40mg winny a day. Week 14: PCT: 10 days of Nolva @40mg, after that, 10 days of Nolva @20mg. Test cyp has a long acting ester, so you can only start your PCT after 3 weeks. The winny will help you to hold the gains better and it will make you nice and ripped. Just my 2cc's ______________________ No Pain, No Gain

23-09-2005, 12:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	what relevance does that have to this thread rtlashley ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

23-09-2005, 08:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 819 Rep Power:	some are more prone to gyno than others..however it is far better to be prepared than hope you are one of the ones who arent 8) ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

23-09-2005, 09:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
khany Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 90 Rep Power:	Funny thing is gyno , me personaly have run numerous cycles with no probs at all but on my last cycle i got itchy nips for the first time was very suprised maybe it wasnt gyno maybe it was i dont no for sure but sure was glad to have plenty of nolva and prov in my draw ______________________ Co Owner @ www.undergroundmuscle.co.uk superMOD@ TDS ProvenVIP@ theVIPboard VIP@ SSB VIP@ SRM VET@ MDF

21-09-2005, 08:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
billyjab Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 13 Rep Power:	So I don't have to worry about side effects during the use of the test? I guess I don't really get what happens for side effects, if I take Nolv as post cycle, will it reverse anything bad?

21-09-2005, 09:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	2000mg of cyp isnt really enough to do a cycle with

23-09-2005, 11:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
rtlashley Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power:	Does any one know where I can get some 1-ad and have it sent to the states?

23-09-2005, 05:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	Billy jab, you must do some reaserch on possible sides so you can help prevent them happening or at least know what to do if sides occur.For an example, some people on high doses ie 750mg-1g+ can get bitch tits (gyno) during a cycle but this can be treated relatevly quickly and easily if you catch it quick, however if you dont no about sides like theeses you will not know how to combat it or even realise the sides before its too late to reverse. Read around some posts in the steroid section m8, all the best divie

23-09-2005, 08:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
billyjab Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 13 Rep Power:	Hey thanks guys, yea I was mainly worried about the gyno. I will read around here...thanks

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