Gear advice

khany · 13-09-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pain

Hi mate, I would advise trying something like Superdrol for your first cycle, if your not keen on needles etc.. The steroid alternative would be for example Dianabol, but you would not take this alone. I would carry out more research from various forums and you'll soon pick up the basics for cycles!

disagree mate nothing wrong with dbol only cycles , end of the day muscle is muscle which ever AAS is used what is lost from dbol is the water which many ppl class as gains which it isnt and with proper pct and diet majority of gains will be kept

i would say forget this super drol garbage why would you take something that there is very little info on and no clinical trials as with dbol lol breakfast of champions imo

garrilla · 14-09-2005, 10:56 AM

i'd probably agree with khany on this.

keyzee · 14-09-2005, 04:02 PM

I have been looking into superdrol it looks good and importantly its seems readily available. This might be a stupid question but are there any reasons why I shouldnt try superdrol

sitries · 14-09-2005, 04:18 PM

nick 500 seemed to gain really well on it soit looks like a decent product. to be honest tho i think id rather just save up a bit and spend the money on a cycle.

sitries · 14-09-2005, 04:23 PM

te only info i can find on superdrol is from the people selling i. what is its composition nick, is it quie strong stuff or what? what were ur gains. its when u said 'just 2 caps a day' thats making me interested. si

khany · 14-09-2005, 05:41 PM

Borrowed from a website......

Product Description:
Superdrol (methasteron) is definitely not a prohormone: it is a very active form of a designer supplement. This is a supplement designed to have it all.

Anadrol/oxymetholone 17-hydroxy-2-hydroxymethylene-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-3-one

Superdrol/methasteron 2a,17a-Dimethyl-17-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one

Masteron/drostanolone 2a-methyl-17 -hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one

Proviron/mesterolone 1a-methyl-17 -hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one

EFFECTS
Anabolic effects & dosing requirements

As fascinating as all this chemistry might be, you are probably much more interested in how well Superdrol is going to work. What you are going to gain, and how much it will take you to make these gains? The gains from Superdrol are very dry and lean, so numbers do not tell the whole story, but let us look at them nonetheless. According to the book values, Superdrol should be 20% as androgenic as the reference standard methyl-test, and 400-800% as anabolic, while M1T is 910-1600%, and Anadrol closer to 300%, while being twice as androgenic as Superdrol, mg for mg. So in theory, Superdrol should be half as anabolic as the same dosage of M1T, and 10-20% as androgenic. This would mean that it should take twice the dosage of Superdrol to match the anabolic effects of M1T, at which dosage its androgenic side-effects would be 20-40% of those from M1T. Fortunately in the case of Superdrol it exceeds in practice its theoretical promise. Accordingly, proper testing was carried out, allowing us to determine real world dosing recommendations, not ballpark theoretical numbers. The following recommendations are honest and accurate: 10-15mg will be sufficient for beginners under 200lbs; 20-25mg for those advanced lifters under 200lbs, or for those above 200lbs but untrained; 30-35mg for men who have seriously trained themselves but are under 240lbs. For men who think they need to run a dose which falls between the use of whole capsules, one extra 10mg capsule can be taken before workouts, such that the weekly average is appropriate. as a rule of thumb, Superdrol will require 50% more of a dose than M1T to give you comparable gains in muscle. Any women who are entertaining the possibility of using Superdrol should reduce the weight to accord with their sex and their height, and then divide these dosages by a factor of no less than ten. Capsules will then have to be diluted in liquid to be measured accurately. For men, 40mg is a dose only for the very large or the true non-responders, by which I mean people who do not see results on less than 30mg of M1T. Very few people will need 40mg of Superdrol, and no one will need above 50mg. If used in a stack reduce the daily dose by 5-10mg, which would be very prudent given how well Superdrol will stack, and if not its expense, then your very limited supply

Stu21Ldn · 14-09-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keyzee

I have been looking into superdrol it looks good and importantly its seems readily available. This might be a stupid question but are there any reasons why I shouldnt try superdrol

no reason not too but you could get dbol for a quater of the price and dbol is tried and tested.

sitries · 14-09-2005, 06:08 PM

nice 1 khany/ looks like an ok product - but i think id rather the real deal.

keyzee · 15-09-2005, 12:27 AM

Yeah i see your point about dbol being tried and tested but i dont know where to get it and I hear the side effects are worse and most gains are hard to keep-saying this I havent tried it and know v little about it just going on info from sites like this

14-09-2005, 05:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
khany Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 90 Rep Power:	Borrowed from a website...... Product Description: Superdrol (methasteron) is definitely not a prohormone: it is a very active form of a designer supplement. This is a supplement designed to have it all. Anadrol/oxymetholone 17-hydroxy-2-hydroxymethylene-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-3-one Superdrol/methasteron 2a,17a-Dimethyl-17-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one Masteron/drostanolone 2a-methyl-17 -hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one Proviron/mesterolone 1a-methyl-17 -hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one EFFECTS Anabolic effects & dosing requirements As fascinating as all this chemistry might be, you are probably much more interested in how well Superdrol is going to work. What you are going to gain, and how much it will take you to make these gains? The gains from Superdrol are very dry and lean, so numbers do not tell the whole story, but let us look at them nonetheless. According to the book values, Superdrol should be 20% as androgenic as the reference standard methyl-test, and 400-800% as anabolic, while M1T is 910-1600%, and Anadrol closer to 300%, while being twice as androgenic as Superdrol, mg for mg. So in theory, Superdrol should be half as anabolic as the same dosage of M1T, and 10-20% as androgenic. This would mean that it should take twice the dosage of Superdrol to match the anabolic effects of M1T, at which dosage its androgenic side-effects would be 20-40% of those from M1T. Fortunately in the case of Superdrol it exceeds in practice its theoretical promise. Accordingly, proper testing was carried out, allowing us to determine real world dosing recommendations, not ballpark theoretical numbers. The following recommendations are honest and accurate: 10-15mg will be sufficient for beginners under 200lbs; 20-25mg for those advanced lifters under 200lbs, or for those above 200lbs but untrained; 30-35mg for men who have seriously trained themselves but are under 240lbs. For men who think they need to run a dose which falls between the use of whole capsules, one extra 10mg capsule can be taken before workouts, such that the weekly average is appropriate. as a rule of thumb, Superdrol will require 50% more of a dose than M1T to give you comparable gains in muscle. Any women who are entertaining the possibility of using Superdrol should reduce the weight to accord with their sex and their height, and then divide these dosages by a factor of no less than ten. Capsules will then have to be diluted in liquid to be measured accurately. For men, 40mg is a dose only for the very large or the true non-responders, by which I mean people who do not see results on less than 30mg of M1T. Very few people will need 40mg of Superdrol, and no one will need above 50mg. If used in a stack reduce the daily dose by 5-10mg, which would be very prudent given how well Superdrol will stack, and if not its expense, then your very limited supply ______________________ Co Owner @ www.undergroundmuscle.co.uk superMOD@ TDS ProvenVIP@ theVIPboard VIP@ SSB VIP@ SRM VET@ MDF

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14-09-2005, 10:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
garrilla Banned Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 431 Rep Power:	i'd probably agree with khany on this.

14-09-2005, 04:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
keyzee Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	I have been looking into superdrol it looks good and importantly its seems readily available. This might be a stupid question but are there any reasons why I shouldnt try superdrol

14-09-2005, 04:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 637 Rep Power:	nick 500 seemed to gain really well on it soit looks like a decent product. to be honest tho i think id rather just save up a bit and spend the money on a cycle.

14-09-2005, 04:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 637 Rep Power:	te only info i can find on superdrol is from the people selling i. what is its composition nick, is it quie strong stuff or what? what were ur gains. its when u said 'just 2 caps a day' thats making me interested. si

14-09-2005, 06:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 637 Rep Power:	nice 1 khany/ looks like an ok product - but i think id rather the real deal.

15-09-2005, 12:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
keyzee Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Yeah i see your point about dbol being tried and tested but i dont know where to get it and I hear the side effects are worse and most gains are hard to keep-saying this I havent tried it and know v little about it just going on info from sites like this