steroids vs pro hormones

sitries · 09-09-2005, 08:05 PM

i have some understanding of steroids and ph's, but what is the difference 1 - in the actual compounds and how they work. 2 - the results. 3 - the side effects.

If ph's are just a watered down version of steroids then why do people bother with them with lesser results? if ur going to take the risks of using hormones then why not just use the real deal?

wht would the difference for example be in a cycle of 1AD and 4AD, compared with a cycle of say dbol and test?

i will be interested to find out th general facts and also peoples views. cheers

whathellhappendtothat · 10-09-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sitries

i have some understanding of steroids and ph's, but what is the difference 1 - in the actual compounds and how they work. 2 - the results. 3 - the side effects.

If ph's are just a watered down version of steroids then why do people bother with them with lesser results? if ur going to take the risks of using hormones then why not just use the real deal?

wht would the difference for example be in a cycle of 1AD and 4AD, compared with a cycle of say dbol and test?

i will be interested to find out th general facts and also peoples views. cheers

the compounds of PH are different to steriods the reason for this is because the PH arent active hormones until the enzymes in the liver makes then active, steriods are active hormones and dont need any enzymes to activate then.
the side effects of Ph compared to steriods can be just the same because the PH get converted into active hormones which steriods already are and this means that they could both have the same side effects.

sitries · 10-09-2005, 01:00 PM

iv heard that mentioned before. in that case, phs seem a waste of time really. why not just use steroids!? the side effects are potentially the same and the results are probably going to be worse in terms of thegains you make. personally phs seema poor choice!

axalotl2000 · 10-09-2005, 07:54 PM

there is nothing you can buy on the open market which acts as good as gear, over the years ive wasted 100s of pounds on pro hormones, m1t,mag 10, ripfast testo stack, norateen, 1 ad, none of it works, just spend a couple of pounds on sust and deca and you will grow , plus the side effects are low on those 2

10-09-2005, 08:54 PM

:? Dunno where you where putting your M1T but it does work. If you want realy quick and sizable gains then yes real gear is definetly the road to follow.

***Extreme*** · 10-09-2005, 10:05 PM

As a bodybuilder I would never bother with pro hormones, an ill effective poor way of allowing people to say they are natural and sit on their pedestal of self righteousness whilst looking down on those of us who are open about using gear.

If you are going to take a product which is going to effect your natural hormone balance, take the one which will give the best result in the shortest time most cost effectively. I believe you are open to as many side effects because you need to stay on these pro hormones for a longer time to get a result.

As a supplement company owner I have never bothered releasing pro hormones, topical solutions or any other half baked product to make a quick buck knowing that its not the best product for my customers.

I think most of the stuff thats on the market makes the manufacturers, vat man, importers, etc plenty money, thats it.

garrilla · 11-09-2005, 10:27 AM

well said mate.

wigz · 14-09-2005, 11:13 AM

completed one course of gear and one m1t, gains on gear great, gains on m1t ok but sides effects on m1t awfull! i was struggling 2 get out of bed i was so tired and the back pain! m1t really did not suit me i have read quite poitive reports on here about m1t but i have an unopened tub and a half full one and absoloutly no intention of taking them IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE C**P!

mma_badboy · 15-09-2005, 11:02 PM

i've used M4OHN before and had good results with that, but after using the real thing... i'd never go back to prohoromes! AAS works out cheaper and the results are much much better! :twisted:

09-09-2005, 08:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 633 Rep Power:	steroids vs pro hormones i have some understanding of steroids and ph's, but what is the difference 1 - in the actual compounds and how they work. 2 - the results. 3 - the side effects. If ph's are just a watered down version of steroids then why do people bother with them with lesser results? if ur going to take the risks of using hormones then why not just use the real deal? wht would the difference for example be in a cycle of 1AD and 4AD, compared with a cycle of say dbol and test? i will be interested to find out th general facts and also peoples views. cheers

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10-09-2005, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 633 Rep Power:	iv heard that mentioned before. in that case, phs seem a waste of time really. why not just use steroids!? the side effects are potentially the same and the results are probably going to be worse in terms of thegains you make. personally phs seema poor choice!

10-09-2005, 07:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
axalotl2000 Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 188 Rep Power:	there is nothing you can buy on the open market which acts as good as gear, over the years ive wasted 100s of pounds on pro hormones, m1t,mag 10, ripfast testo stack, norateen, 1 ad, none of it works, just spend a couple of pounds on sust and deca and you will grow , plus the side effects are low on those 2

10-09-2005, 08:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	:? Dunno where you where putting your M1T but it does work. If you want realy quick and sizable gains then yes real gear is definetly the road to follow.

11-09-2005, 10:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
garrilla Banned Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 431 Rep Power:	well said mate.

14-09-2005, 11:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 426 Rep Power:	completed one course of gear and one m1t, gains on gear great, gains on m1t ok but sides effects on m1t awfull! i was struggling 2 get out of bed i was so tired and the back pain! m1t really did not suit me i have read quite poitive reports on here about m1t but i have an unopened tub and a half full one and absoloutly no intention of taking them IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE C**P!

15-09-2005, 11:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
mma_badboy Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 25 Rep Power:	i've used M4OHN before and had good results with that, but after using the real thing... i'd never go back to prohoromes! AAS works out cheaper and the results are much much better! :twisted: