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Old 30-07-2005, 01:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thanks to the guys that replied to my previous message, I am going to continue to train natural for the time being, but for now continue to research a cycle.

In my thirties and lean, been training for some years now, and of recent training much harder and seeing still seeing gains.

In the future I am considering this cycle, with the aim of building strengh and putting on muscle:

week Deca-Durabolin (mg/week) Sustanon Clomid(mg/day) Hcg(i.u./week) Nolvadex (mg/day)

1 D 400 S 500 N 10
2 D 400 S 500 N 10
3 D 400 S 500 N 10
4 D 400 S 500 N 10
5 D 200 S 250 N 10
6 D 200 S 250 N 10
7 N 10
8 C100 H 1500 N 10
9 C 50 H 1500
10 C 50


As a first cycle, could I just run Sustanon along with Clomid starting at week 8? Aware of having to increase quality calories.

Let me have your thoughts.

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Old 30-07-2005, 01:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Couple of points here.

1) Sustanon is a good choice to go with Deca, taking test is essential to avoid the extreme suppressive effects of deca, such as deca **** - you might wish to consider dbol for the first 4 weeks or so to give your cycle a kick start (although not essential).

2) I'd say Clomid AND Nolva isnt necessary - most guys here would just recommend Nolva; using HGC is definately a good idea.

Additionally, unless you are gyno prone, running Nolva throughout is probably not needed.

One more thing is that you havent mentioned how often/dosage for injections - HGC for example may be beneficial doing more regular but smaller ones.

Definately a solid starting point for a cycle, just do a bit more research, and consider not doing this until your natural potential is reached.
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Old 30-07-2005, 03:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've never seen the attraction of sust myself, I'd recommend good old fashioned enanthate or cypionate at 500mg for 10 weeks. The classic first cycle is something like this:-

Week 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED
Week 1-10 Test E/Test Cyp

PCT (2 weeks after last injection) - Nolva for four weeks at 50/40/30/20mg

For your second cycle add Deca to the mix, but as this is a fIrst cycle keep it simplE and see how you react to test.

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Old 30-07-2005, 06:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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its a good cycle but i also p[refer cyp or enan to sus, only start the nolva if you get any signs of gyno otherwise its a waste
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