Post cycle?

lezandrez

Hi chaps, I'm due to be finishing a twelve week course of 2ml Deca and 2 ml sus 250.
At hand i have tamoxifen's. As of yet i've jus stated taking one tab every other day cos a bit of tenderness in me left nip jus starting, i can feel gyno also jus starting.
What advice can you suggest for coming off, and pct and the best way to keep my gains etc...............many thanks.
I'm currently at week nine, and pleased!

T@Z

If you can get your hands on it on a short notice, I would take Femara combined with Proviron. Proviron possessed the androgene receptors and therefore prevents gyno. Femara can be compared to Nolvadex (tamoxifen) but it has the advantage it doesn't lower the IGF, which Nolva does.
If you can't get your hands on it that fast, I would start taking the tamofixen (Nolvadex) at 20mg threwout the cycle and do your PCT with it as well.
So, you're doing a 12 week cycle, start your PCT in week 16 with first 14 days at 40mg and then 14 days at 20mg. From now till week 16 take 20mg (that is if you can't find Proviron or Femara).

GL

lezandrez

Thanks very much for the info mate much appreciated.
What can i do in order to keep my gains also whilst i'm off the gear?
and you mentioned IGF which stands for?

And is that 20mg per day with the tamoxifen.....as i search for the femara and proviron?

Again many many thanks.

T@Z

When you're off the gear the concept is simple: eat as much proteines as you can, divided over at least 6 meals a day to keep your metabolism running. But you'll find more on that in the diet-section

Maybe this'll help you concerning IGF:http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~pe/exs490web...hormonept1.htm

Proviron should be taken at a dosage of 50mg daily.

Some additional info on Femara:
Arimidex or Femara

Arimidex is an anti-aromatize drug used while on anabolic/androgenic steroids to help prevent water retention (edema) and Gynecomastia (bitch tits) build up that is a common side effect of using drugs such as synthetic testosterone and androgenic drugs. Arimidex's mechanism of action is by blocking the aromatize enzyme, which will block the production of the hormone estrogen.

This drug is also used for the weeks after your cycle while on a post cycle therapy regimen for the same purpose for using it while on the AAS. Arimidex has a half-life of 3 days, so many will administer it everyday (ED) to every other day (EOD). If it is being used everyday most bodybuilders will use .25mg to 1mg, and if used EOD .5mg to 1mg is the recommended dose. This will vary if you are using other anti-estrogens while using the Arimidex, and also the amount you are willing to use due to the cost of the drug.

Femara has very similar characteristics as Arimidex, but some believe that it is more effective at estrogen control. Most users report no water retention what so ever while using this drug, and in some studies it is shown to slightly raise IGF-1 levels, unlike a drug like Nolvadex, which has been shown to decrease them slightly. The normal dose for Femara is 2.5mg ED to every third day during cycle and also during post cycle recovery periods.

redspy

Good adivice from T@Z but 2.5mg of Femara is a fairly hefty dose and some people will suffer reduced libido and sore joints in this range. I usually run <1mg EOD. Taking an AIs like femara and Adex at this stage of your cycle will have a somewhat limited impact as they won't reduce existing circulating estrogen levels, they simply reduce aromatase activity.

The other issue here is that deca can in some cases be the cause of gyno via progesterone.

T@Z

Thx bro this way I keep learning