first course help

manclad · 13-07-2005, 12:34 AM

hi i have read alot up on this site now and this is the course im thinking of havin
deca 250mg a week 10 weeks
sus 250 a week 10 weeks
dbol 25mg 4 weeks
3 weeks after the cycle start pct take nolva for 3 weeks
day 1 100mg
day 2-11 60mg
day 11-22 40mg
let me know what u think?
only thing i dont know is do i take the deca and sus at the same time of 1 shot deca 1 day and 1 shot sus a few days after? cheers

BigDaddy · 13-07-2005, 09:10 AM

Looks o.k to me, i would take the shots together as it just a hassle to do it on separate occassions, don't think it would make a big difference.

Yout PCT
"3 weeks after the cycle start pct take nolva for 3 weeks
day 1 100mg
day 2-11 60mg
day 11-22 40mg " ??????
You not doing no HCG or Clomid, would recommed it.

manclad · 13-07-2005, 12:03 PM

when would u recomend havin clomid? ive thought just havin nolva in pct is ok? any help will be great cheers.

BigDaddy · 13-07-2005, 12:06 PM

Here is what i do buddy, i ahve had no probs and this is what alot of guys i know do, hope it helps

For PCT I use HCG during the last 3 weeks at 500 i.u. every other day so 5000 iu of HCG. Then upon completion of the cycle I use clomid at 100 mg a day for week 1 and 50 mg a day for the next 10 days. During these 10 days and for the next 10 days I will use Pro-Male at a dose of 9 caps a day so it works out at 2 bottles. During Clomid therapy I will use 5 clenbuterol (100 mcgs) per day split into 2 doses so that is around 100 clen, or 9 ml of the liquid stuff. Following the kick start of my test by the pro-male I would recommend the 3 day detox to clean out the system. This should all take about 5 weeks then it is time to get tested at the doctors and back on again.

manclad · 13-07-2005, 04:32 PM

ok get that, thanks.
what would i need to get tested at the doctors for?cheers

DarkAngel · 13-07-2005, 04:45 PM

Hi mate

good base line cycle although i would up deca to 400mg as this imho is the lowest dose you will notice anything from the deca and run the dbol at 30mg.

BigDaddy · 14-07-2005, 08:41 AM

Well my Doctor trains in the same gym as me so he is clued into the whole steroids things, so when you go visit you wont get a big lecture that you would get from a regular doc.
He does your blood pressure, takes blood to check for liver/kidney damage, does your test levels, does pretty much everything to give you peace of mind.

manclad · 14-07-2005, 04:35 PM

cheers for replys guys gonna be startin my course on monday ill keep use posted on how im going. :P

13-07-2005, 12:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
manclad Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	first course help hi i have read alot up on this site now and this is the course im thinking of havin deca 250mg a week 10 weeks sus 250 a week 10 weeks dbol 25mg 4 weeks 3 weeks after the cycle start pct take nolva for 3 weeks day 1 100mg day 2-11 60mg day 11-22 40mg let me know what u think? only thing i dont know is do i take the deca and sus at the same time of 1 shot deca 1 day and 1 shot sus a few days after? cheers

13-07-2005, 09:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
BigDaddy Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Derry/N.Ireland Posts: 159 Rep Power:	Looks o.k to me, i would take the shots together as it just a hassle to do it on separate occassions, don't think it would make a big difference. Yout PCT "3 weeks after the cycle start pct take nolva for 3 weeks day 1 100mg day 2-11 60mg day 11-22 40mg " ?????? You not doing no HCG or Clomid, would recommed it. ______________________ I see my body as an instrument, rather than an ornament. Mod @ www.hardcoremuscle.co.uk Mod @ www.hardgainer.co.uk email - bigdaddy@hardcoremuscle.co.uk

13-07-2005, 12:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
BigDaddy Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Derry/N.Ireland Posts: 159 Rep Power:	Here is what i do buddy, i ahve had no probs and this is what alot of guys i know do, hope it helps For PCT I use HCG during the last 3 weeks at 500 i.u. every other day so 5000 iu of HCG. Then upon completion of the cycle I use clomid at 100 mg a day for week 1 and 50 mg a day for the next 10 days. During these 10 days and for the next 10 days I will use Pro-Male at a dose of 9 caps a day so it works out at 2 bottles. During Clomid therapy I will use 5 clenbuterol (100 mcgs) per day split into 2 doses so that is around 100 clen, or 9 ml of the liquid stuff. Following the kick start of my test by the pro-male I would recommend the 3 day detox to clean out the system. This should all take about 5 weeks then it is time to get tested at the doctors and back on again. ______________________ I see my body as an instrument, rather than an ornament. Mod @ www.hardcoremuscle.co.uk Mod @ www.hardgainer.co.uk email - bigdaddy@hardcoremuscle.co.uk

14-07-2005, 08:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
BigDaddy Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Derry/N.Ireland Posts: 159 Rep Power:	Well my Doctor trains in the same gym as me so he is clued into the whole steroids things, so when you go visit you wont get a big lecture that you would get from a regular doc. He does your blood pressure, takes blood to check for liver/kidney damage, does your test levels, does pretty much everything to give you peace of mind. ______________________ I see my body as an instrument, rather than an ornament. Mod @ www.hardcoremuscle.co.uk Mod @ www.hardgainer.co.uk email - bigdaddy@hardcoremuscle.co.uk

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13-07-2005, 12:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
manclad Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	when would u recomend havin clomid? ive thought just havin nolva in pct is ok? any help will be great cheers.

13-07-2005, 04:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
manclad Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	ok get that, thanks. what would i need to get tested at the doctors for?cheers

13-07-2005, 04:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
DarkAngel Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 331 Rep Power:	Hi mate good base line cycle although i would up deca to 400mg as this imho is the lowest dose you will notice anything from the deca and run the dbol at 30mg.

14-07-2005, 04:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
manclad Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	cheers for replys guys gonna be startin my course on monday ill keep use posted on how im going. :P