People's attitudes to steroids

divie · 03-09-2005, 07:17 PM

RJMAGNUS why do you not respect people on roids?.
I done my first cycle earlier this year but im not doing another cycle as i personaly no of too many people who have had trouble from using the gear ie heart attack
I do think if used sensibly the risk of severe side effects is low but im personaly not going to take that chance again.Im glad i done a cycle though as it opened my eyes a bit and it was more curiosity then anything and the weight gain was nice aswell.
However saying this my attitude towards naturals and gear users wont differ at all because both work as hard in the gym and on there diet.I genuinly beilieve that its just an excuse to knock the steroid users so the average joe can feel better about himself and who cant exept that hard work is what gets you the physique not the juice what the average joe wonts to beilieve coz they to lasy to eat and train properly with 100%.

sitries · 04-09-2005, 12:44 PM

rj magnus did also point out that his knowlege was limited on steroids - so fair enough.

Why wont you do another cycle then Divie? did you experience any side effects at all on the gear? what was the cycle and what were the results - how much weight gain?

Caz84 · 04-09-2005, 04:14 PM

I cant understand how rj can respect anyone who has taken steroids and so has a nice body?! As a steroid user to gain the full benefits of my cycle i workout twice as hard, thats not to say i dont put in a 100% everytime anyway, but its just taking steroids enables my body to repair quicker so i can workout harder and more frequently... Alot harder than my natural counterparts anyway!

RJ Magnus · 04-09-2005, 05:47 PM

If you enjoy working out and feel the gains from that why do you need steroids?

Caz84 says ""enables my body to repair quicker" but surely there is a reason your body takes time to recover.
I just cant see why, if you workout hard and use the correct diet, why do you want to risk your health, even your life just for that bit extra?

If im going to push my body to the limit, im happy to let it recover fully in its own time naturally

Caz84 · 04-09-2005, 06:29 PM

Sorry for my last post, i wasnt having a dig at those that train naturally, as you seem like someone whos worked hard for hes acheived. And i did enjoy the gains i made by training naturally.

All im saying is that steroids allow me to take my body further than i could do naturally, and for me that is worth the risk. And probably withought steroids i could have not made the gains that i have. Nevertheless, i just wanted to make the point that ive trained ****ing hard for every pound of muscle ive put on, and i hope that those who do train naturally recognise how hard we still work for what weve acheived.

RJ Magnus · 04-09-2005, 06:57 PM

im sure you have worked hard

I know i have a lack of knowledge generaly on steroids but im aware you have to work for what you get.
I also dont like people who think you just inject pure muscle tissue.
But personaly i wouldn't use steroids.

Caz84 · 04-09-2005, 07:28 PM

Cool, i just dont like it when people just assume that you can inject some steroids, still sit on your arse and youll get big... seen it done before, and then they come out of the other end shocked there they not any bigger. The stereotypes are just v annoying and tiresome, but at least i can channel this anger towards my weight lifting lol.

At the end of the day its about acheiving the body image and level of fitness that youll be most happy with, and if you dont need steroids to achieve that, then thats great. But personally i did, and i hope that i wont loose any respect for that.

divie · 04-09-2005, 08:09 PM

SITRIES my cycle was fine m8 im in my last thew days of pct at the mo and i kept about a stone of weight from the cycle so far and the only sides i had was a bit of spots on the arm.The reason im not sure on further cycles is that it may be bad for me in the long term.

divie · 04-09-2005, 08:12 PM

I just read caz last post and i think he spot on with what he said.

Caz84 · 04-09-2005, 08:30 PM

Hey divie, thanks man! Just dont see why we should lose any respect from anyone when we workout hard too, just because we supplement differently doesnt take anything away from our dedication.

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RJ Magnus Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 90 Rep Power:	If you enjoy working out and feel the gains from that why do you need steroids? Caz84 says ""enables my body to repair quicker" but surely there is a reason your body takes time to recover. I just cant see why, if you workout hard and use the correct diet, why do you want to risk your health, even your life just for that bit extra? If im going to push my body to the limit, im happy to let it recover fully in its own time naturally ______________________ http://groups.msn.com/YourBodyYourTemple

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RJ Magnus Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 90 Rep Power:	im sure you have worked hard I know i have a lack of knowledge generaly on steroids but im aware you have to work for what you get. I also dont like people who think you just inject pure muscle tissue. But personaly i wouldn't use steroids. ______________________ http://groups.msn.com/YourBodyYourTemple

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03-09-2005, 07:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	RJMAGNUS why do you not respect people on roids?. I done my first cycle earlier this year but im not doing another cycle as i personaly no of too many people who have had trouble from using the gear ie heart attack I do think if used sensibly the risk of severe side effects is low but im personaly not going to take that chance again.Im glad i done a cycle though as it opened my eyes a bit and it was more curiosity then anything and the weight gain was nice aswell. However saying this my attitude towards naturals and gear users wont differ at all because both work as hard in the gym and on there diet.I genuinly beilieve that its just an excuse to knock the steroid users so the average joe can feel better about himself and who cant exept that hard work is what gets you the physique not the juice what the average joe wonts to beilieve coz they to lasy to eat and train properly with 100%.

04-09-2005, 12:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 637 Rep Power:	rj magnus did also point out that his knowlege was limited on steroids - so fair enough. Why wont you do another cycle then Divie? did you experience any side effects at all on the gear? what was the cycle and what were the results - how much weight gain?

04-09-2005, 04:14 PM	#23 (permalink)
Caz84 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 45 Rep Power:	I cant understand how rj can respect anyone who has taken steroids and so has a nice body?! As a steroid user to gain the full benefits of my cycle i workout twice as hard, thats not to say i dont put in a 100% everytime anyway, but its just taking steroids enables my body to repair quicker so i can workout harder and more frequently... Alot harder than my natural counterparts anyway!

04-09-2005, 06:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
Caz84 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 45 Rep Power:	Sorry for my last post, i wasnt having a dig at those that train naturally, as you seem like someone whos worked hard for hes acheived. And i did enjoy the gains i made by training naturally. All im saying is that steroids allow me to take my body further than i could do naturally, and for me that is worth the risk. And probably withought steroids i could have not made the gains that i have. Nevertheless, i just wanted to make the point that ive trained ****ing hard for every pound of muscle ive put on, and i hope that those who do train naturally recognise how hard we still work for what weve acheived.

04-09-2005, 07:28 PM	#27 (permalink)
Caz84 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 45 Rep Power:	Cool, i just dont like it when people just assume that you can inject some steroids, still sit on your arse and youll get big... seen it done before, and then they come out of the other end shocked there they not any bigger. The stereotypes are just v annoying and tiresome, but at least i can channel this anger towards my weight lifting lol. At the end of the day its about acheiving the body image and level of fitness that youll be most happy with, and if you dont need steroids to achieve that, then thats great. But personally i did, and i hope that i wont loose any respect for that.

04-09-2005, 08:09 PM	#28 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	SITRIES my cycle was fine m8 im in my last thew days of pct at the mo and i kept about a stone of weight from the cycle so far and the only sides i had was a bit of spots on the arm.The reason im not sure on further cycles is that it may be bad for me in the long term.

04-09-2005, 08:12 PM	#29 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	I just read caz last post and i think he spot on with what he said.

04-09-2005, 08:30 PM	#30 (permalink)
Caz84 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 45 Rep Power:	Hey divie, thanks man! Just dont see why we should lose any respect from anyone when we workout hard too, just because we supplement differently doesnt take anything away from our dedication.