First Cycle

lezandrez · 19-06-2005, 02:31 PM

Hi i train with alot of guys who haved been on the gear for a while, ive been training naturally for about 6-7 years and have hit a brick wall if you like.
They have suggested taking 2 ml of sus and 2 ml of deca a week for twelve weeks. I would like to ask advice on HCG's and anti E's etc, when to take and how much.
Many Thanks.

DarkAngel · 19-06-2005, 02:44 PM

Hi mate,

Glad to see your friends have advised a half decent cycle for you.

Are you kick starting with dbol?

HCG imo will not be needed for this cycle but if u feel you cant do without it then run it 500ius ed for the last 2 weeks of the cycle.

Keep nolva at hand during the whole cycle incase you get the symptoms of gyno ie itchy sensitive nipples.

For pct i reccommend using nolvadex as clomid causes alot of depression.

run nolva like this -

day 1 - 100mg
day 2-11 60mg a day
day11-22 40mg a day

Your first day of nolvadex pct is 21 days after your last deca/sus shot

Hope this helps

opex

lezandrez · 19-06-2005, 11:31 PM

Thanx for the info much apreciated, do you reccomend using dianabol aswell then? if so what would be the amount and when in the cycle?

Again many thanx.

redspy · 20-06-2005, 04:28 AM

Dbol would be a good addition for weeks 1-4. Personally I'd run HCG as nandralone is very suppressive to the HPTA. I'd start it about 4 weeks into the cycle @ 500IU every 5 days.

19-06-2005, 02:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
lezandrez Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	First Cycle Hi i train with alot of guys who haved been on the gear for a while, ive been training naturally for about 6-7 years and have hit a brick wall if you like. They have suggested taking 2 ml of sus and 2 ml of deca a week for twelve weeks. I would like to ask advice on HCG's and anti E's etc, when to take and how much. Many Thanks.

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redspy Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Way Out West Posts: 578 Rep Power:	Dbol would be a good addition for weeks 1-4. Personally I'd run HCG as nandralone is very suppressive to the HPTA. I'd start it about 4 weeks into the cycle @ 500IU every 5 days. ______________________ IronArena.com

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19-06-2005, 02:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
DarkAngel Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 331 Rep Power:	Hi mate, Glad to see your friends have advised a half decent cycle for you. Are you kick starting with dbol? HCG imo will not be needed for this cycle but if u feel you cant do without it then run it 500ius ed for the last 2 weeks of the cycle. Keep nolva at hand during the whole cycle incase you get the symptoms of gyno ie itchy sensitive nipples. For pct i reccommend using nolvadex as clomid causes alot of depression. run nolva like this - day 1 - 100mg day 2-11 60mg a day day11-22 40mg a day Your first day of nolvadex pct is 21 days after your last deca/sus shot Hope this helps opex

19-06-2005, 11:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
lezandrez Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Thanx for the info much apreciated, do you reccomend using dianabol aswell then? if so what would be the amount and when in the cycle? Again many thanx.