Beginners Stack?

nothillguy · 24-05-2005, 11:58 AM

Thanks in advance for any help. Im in my early 30's and finally decided to do a couple of cycles of anabolics. Im tired of seeing these 1-2 years newbies fly past me with half the effort. I am thiking of test and dbol but need some dosage info. I just finished a bulking stage and really want to give it a go.

Cheers
Shaun

nevlaw · 24-05-2005, 05:41 PM

Hi there mate, im just begining my first course (when i get the pinz) im running test e 500mg pw for ten weeks and 30mg pd Dbol to kick start the course.

This is also my first course and this was highly recommended to me by many of the mods on this site.

Im sure these guys will also give you other options available.

MrSkinny · 24-05-2005, 10:07 PM

I asked a lot a questions a while ago on a first cycle.
See: http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=20811

Got some good replies. O.pex recommended to take 4L of water a day also with up to 1000g of ALA and 1000 of Milk Thistle per day for kidney and liver benefit

Might help

Mr S

9519sam · 25-05-2005, 05:03 AM

im just comming to the end of a 500mg sust and 30-45mg dbol cycle and made some amazing gaines

would certainly recomend it for someone who was at a point in there training where they were going to use the stuff

redspy · 25-05-2005, 05:33 AM

A 10-12 week cycle of test enanthate/cypionate with 4 weeks of Dbol will give you some good results. Here's what I'd suggest:-

Week 1-10 Test Enan 500mg (injected twice weekly)
Weeks 1-4 35mg Dbol

For PCT 4 weeks of tamoxifen citrate will help recovery and maintaining gains.

nothillguy · 25-05-2005, 07:42 PM

Thanks for the replies! I just placed my order and decided against the jabs and went with dbol and adriol (oral). I have been researching both injectable and oral with injectable being more effective but just can't make the leap yet. My girlfriend won't even let me run with siccors so needles still scare me. Maybe on my next cycle.

Im still thinking about the dosage for andriol, any suggestions?

Cheers
Shaun

nothillguy · 25-05-2005, 07:45 PM

Thanks for the replies! I just placed my order and decided against the jabs and went with dbol and adriol (oral). I have been researching both injectable and oral with injectable being more effective but just can't make the leap yet. My girlfriend won't even let me run with siccors so needles still scare me. Maybe on my next cycle.

Im still thinking about the dosage for andriol, any suggestions?

Cheers
Shaun

nothillguy · 25-05-2005, 07:45 PM

Thanks for the replies! I just placed my order and decided against the jabs and went with dbol and adriol (oral). I have been researching both injectable and oral with injectable being more effective but just can't make the leap yet. My girlfriend won't even let me run with siccors so needles still scare me. Maybe on my next cycle.

Im still thinking about the dosage for andriol, any suggestions?

Cheers
Shaun

MrSkinny · 26-05-2005, 04:39 PM

whats the reason you don't like injectables I would rather do injectibles over orals due to the reduced strain on your liver and better chance of keeping your gains. For me anyway, it was a big step jumping to roids so I thought I would do them as effectively as possible

I just "injected" myself with a needle before I got the test to see what it would be like. Basically stabbed myself in the ass lol It was nowhere near as bad as I thought.

cheers

Mr S

9519sam · 26-05-2005, 07:48 PM

Quote:

I just "injected" myself with a needle before I got the test to see what it would be like.

there are websites for people like you

24-05-2005, 11:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
nothillguy Under Construction Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Beginners Stack? Thanks in advance for any help. Im in my early 30's and finally decided to do a couple of cycles of anabolics. Im tired of seeing these 1-2 years newbies fly past me with half the effort. I am thiking of test and dbol but need some dosage info. I just finished a bulking stage and really want to give it a go. Cheers Shaun

24-05-2005, 05:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
nevlaw Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 51 Rep Power:	Hi there mate, im just begining my first course (when i get the pinz) im running test e 500mg pw for ten weeks and 30mg pd Dbol to kick start the course. This is also my first course and this was highly recommended to me by many of the mods on this site. Im sure these guys will also give you other options available. ______________________ Learn , practise, preach

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9519sam Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Just outside Joe16's house! Posts: 573 Rep Power:	im just comming to the end of a 500mg sust and 30-45mg dbol cycle and made some amazing gaines would certainly recomend it for someone who was at a point in there training where they were going to use the stuff ______________________ That'll be another penny thanks!

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24-05-2005, 10:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
MrSkinny Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 255 Rep Power:	I asked a lot a questions a while ago on a first cycle. See: http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=20811 Got some good replies. O.pex recommended to take 4L of water a day also with up to 1000g of ALA and 1000 of Milk Thistle per day for kidney and liver benefit Might help Mr S

25-05-2005, 05:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
redspy Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Way Out West Posts: 578 Rep Power:	A 10-12 week cycle of test enanthate/cypionate with 4 weeks of Dbol will give you some good results. Here's what I'd suggest:- Week 1-10 Test Enan 500mg (injected twice weekly) Weeks 1-4 35mg Dbol For PCT 4 weeks of tamoxifen citrate will help recovery and maintaining gains.

25-05-2005, 07:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
nothillguy Under Construction Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Thanks for the replies! I just placed my order and decided against the jabs and went with dbol and adriol (oral). I have been researching both injectable and oral with injectable being more effective but just can't make the leap yet. My girlfriend won't even let me run with siccors so needles still scare me. Maybe on my next cycle. Im still thinking about the dosage for andriol, any suggestions? Cheers Shaun

25-05-2005, 07:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
nothillguy Under Construction Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Thanks for the replies! I just placed my order and decided against the jabs and went with dbol and adriol (oral). I have been researching both injectable and oral with injectable being more effective but just can't make the leap yet. My girlfriend won't even let me run with siccors so needles still scare me. Maybe on my next cycle. Im still thinking about the dosage for andriol, any suggestions? Cheers Shaun

25-05-2005, 07:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
nothillguy Under Construction Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Thanks for the replies! I just placed my order and decided against the jabs and went with dbol and adriol (oral). I have been researching both injectable and oral with injectable being more effective but just can't make the leap yet. My girlfriend won't even let me run with siccors so needles still scare me. Maybe on my next cycle. Im still thinking about the dosage for andriol, any suggestions? Cheers Shaun

26-05-2005, 04:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
MrSkinny Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 255 Rep Power:	whats the reason you don't like injectables I would rather do injectibles over orals due to the reduced strain on your liver and better chance of keeping your gains. For me anyway, it was a big step jumping to roids so I thought I would do them as effectively as possible I just "injected" myself with a needle before I got the test to see what it would be like. Basically stabbed myself in the ass lol It was nowhere near as bad as I thought. cheers Mr S