when to use nolva?

saj

when you start taking nolva on cycle to combat gyno would you only take it until the the gyno goes away or do you have to continue using throughout the cycle to the end?
is it ok to use nolva during a cycle even if there are no symptoms of gyno just in case or is there no need?
is hcg only needed on heavy cycles (what kind of doses before hcg is required)?
thanks for any replies.

exaktlywhat

you want to use it until well after the symptoms dissappear. i havent seen many specifications on how long but i would go a good week past the end of gyno symptoms to be sure. you can run it on cycle but its really a waste of nolva and the estrogen built up actually helps you grow as long as its not out of hand.

DarkAngel

Hi mate

I personally run 20mg ed of nolva through my cycle and continue to gain well - some people think because you dont as much water the nolva hampers gains which is not true as its merely water retention and not solid muscle mass.

If you dont run nolva and start to get itchy nipples run 40mg a day until the symptoms subside and continue with 20mg ed there after.

There was a lengthy thread on hcg use and dosage before with varying opinions but as long as your cycle isnt longer than 8weeks and you are using less than 750-1g test you can recover fine on clomid or nolvadex.

saj

thanks for that guys that's cleared that one up.

9519sam

i was going to run 500 for 10 weeks should i stop at 8 weeks? cos i cant be arsed with all that hcg milarky


Sam

DarkAngel

At 500mg test bro you will be fine - no probs.

Maybe get yourself some tribulas/zma to run along with your clomid or nolva recovery as it aids natural test production.

9519sam

i got ZMA already in the cupboard

Cheers

Sam

MrSkinny

How do you rate ZMA against HCG O.pex?

DarkAngel

They are not comparable bro - i only advised zma and tribulas to aid the pct alittle.They are nothing like hcg.

Dont get me wrong if guys feel they want to run hcg be my quest but remember to take small frequent doses 2 weeks before end of cycle.

Higher dose hcg like 5000iu shots can bring on gyno with avengance

its better with 500ius ed for the 2wks you run it - you can do this using an insulin pen to work out the dose and even shot into the muscle with the insulin pin also.

MrSkinny

Interesting,

The whole HCG topic was discussed before, but what's you personal opinion on HCG as an aid to boost your test levels towards the end of a cycle, say on test En 500pw for 10 weeks. Beneft or not?

Cheers matey
John