More advanced - how much testo?

muscle69 · 13-04-2005, 09:04 PM

Just something that I have thinking about lately.

I have been bodybuilding for several years now and have done mainly short stacks of 8-10 weeks over the last 4-5 years. Now have nearly 240 lb at 5 11".

I have never really gone above about 750 mg testo a week (occasionally 1000 mg for 2-3 weeks of a stack) and was just wondering what the big guys are really taking. I have spoken to a lot of advanced BB's over the years about gear etc, but most never seem to want to admit how much they are actually injecting themselves.

What are other people's experiences and do you think that the bigger doses can give a boost to mass? (not considering GH etc which a lot of these guys have also been taking to go from big to huge.)

redspy · 13-04-2005, 09:15 PM

Most of this is pure speculation but I've heard the elite BBs are doing 6-8g+ of gear a week, not including orals. I've also heard GH use as high as 28IUs per day. But who knows, the pros aren't going to share their magic stacks with us.

Personally I think you're better off stacking various compounds rather than doing grams of test. A couple of people I know swear by a test/tren/EQ stack for mass. Instead of using stright test I'd add tren, NPP or EQ.

IMO there isn't a direct correlation between dosage and muscle gain.

Anonymous · 13-04-2005, 09:35 PM

The only difference I seen when I went from 500mg/wk of Test Enth to 250mg EOD, was a case of bad acne

Results were no better.

garrilla · 14-04-2005, 08:33 AM

i remember reading about a top bb who had died and his diary had details of his courses, his injectables were as redspy said and on top he was using 7 oxy and a shit load of dbol a day. its serious shit.

muscle69 · 14-04-2005, 05:23 PM

That was Andrea Munzer who apparently had been doing shit loads of gear.

No - I was never considering anything that crazy, just whether I should up the doses a bit. Just moved back to the UK from Germany and a lot of guys over there have really been exploding with mass lately and generally doing pretty big stacks, although always a bit shy to reveal exactly how much. I know that many are also investing in GH as well, especially in the Berlin BB scene.

BTW redspy - I have got hold of some tren which I will add to testo with my next stack and see what happens.

DarkAngel · 14-04-2005, 06:52 PM

Tren and test rocks!

Anonymous · 15-04-2005, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redspy

Most of this is pure speculation but I've heard the elite BBs are doing 6-8g+ of gear a week, not including orals.

thats a LOT of gear!

MrSkinny · 26-04-2005, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote:

Originally Posted by redspy

Most of this is pure speculation but I've heard the elite BBs are doing 6-8g+ of gear a week, not including orals.

thats a LOT of gear!

Is there not some SERIOUS side effects with that amount?

As a matter of interest, how effective is it from say going from 1g-2g compared with 3g-4g of test . It must be a law of diminishing returns, yes/no?

John

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muscle69 Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ealing, London Posts: 3 Rep Power:	More advanced - how much testo? Just something that I have thinking about lately. I have been bodybuilding for several years now and have done mainly short stacks of 8-10 weeks over the last 4-5 years. Now have nearly 240 lb at 5 11". I have never really gone above about 750 mg testo a week (occasionally 1000 mg for 2-3 weeks of a stack) and was just wondering what the big guys are really taking. I have spoken to a lot of advanced BB's over the years about gear etc, but most never seem to want to admit how much they are actually injecting themselves. What are other people's experiences and do you think that the bigger doses can give a boost to mass? (not considering GH etc which a lot of these guys have also been taking to go from big to huge.)

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13-04-2005, 09:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	The only difference I seen when I went from 500mg/wk of Test Enth to 250mg EOD, was a case of bad acne Results were no better.

14-04-2005, 08:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
garrilla Banned Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 431 Rep Power:	i remember reading about a top bb who had died and his diary had details of his courses, his injectables were as redspy said and on top he was using 7 oxy and a shit load of dbol a day. its serious shit.

14-04-2005, 05:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
muscle69 Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ealing, London Posts: 3 Rep Power:	That was Andrea Munzer who apparently had been doing shit loads of gear. No - I was never considering anything that crazy, just whether I should up the doses a bit. Just moved back to the UK from Germany and a lot of guys over there have really been exploding with mass lately and generally doing pretty big stacks, although always a bit shy to reveal exactly how much. I know that many are also investing in GH as well, especially in the Berlin BB scene. BTW redspy - I have got hold of some tren which I will add to testo with my next stack and see what happens.

14-04-2005, 06:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
DarkAngel Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 331 Rep Power:	Tren and test rocks!