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DarkAngel · 18-03-2005, 07:04 PM

Hi mate,

The good ole celltech and nitro tech excuse works every time my friend for the added size - the general public dont know jack shit and will always think you are on gear even if you aint.To them you are big if you train at all.

Going from dbol to winstrol is perfectly ok mate when using liver protectants and when u cease drinking alcohol (if u drink)

I keep going on about blood concentration levels but this is actuall a very good way to keep them stable also when swtitching from dbol to winny.

You will find the winstrol will help give a harder look to the end of your cycle also but as the guys have mentioned winny can be sore on the joints and dry them up - alot of guys use deca to help joints but thats for another time

If you dont want to run the dbol that is fine but its really only to help get your cycle started until the test kicks in properly at week 2-3.

Dbol is one of my favorite drugs and can have excellent effects on strength and general muscle shape as it esp fills the chest,shoulders,traps etc giving them a fuller look (mostly caused by water)

At the end of the day the key is use and not abuse with orals - respect them and run ancillaries to combat sides and dont over use and you will be fine.

Final thought imho avoid clomid - its a horrible drug

LM6000 · 19-03-2005, 10:11 PM

Opex, many, many thanks - you've answered a hell of a lot of noob questions for me with good explanations as to what you are saying

I've already had the "What shit are you taking?" routine, admittedly the 'shit' was M1T so fair enough I s'pose!

Again many thanks Mate.

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18-03-2005, 07:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
DarkAngel Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 331 Rep Power:	Hi mate, The good ole celltech and nitro tech excuse works every time my friend for the added size - the general public dont know jack shit and will always think you are on gear even if you aint.To them you are big if you train at all. Going from dbol to winstrol is perfectly ok mate when using liver protectants and when u cease drinking alcohol (if u drink) I keep going on about blood concentration levels but this is actuall a very good way to keep them stable also when swtitching from dbol to winny. You will find the winstrol will help give a harder look to the end of your cycle also but as the guys have mentioned winny can be sore on the joints and dry them up - alot of guys use deca to help joints but thats for another time If you dont want to run the dbol that is fine but its really only to help get your cycle started until the test kicks in properly at week 2-3. Dbol is one of my favorite drugs and can have excellent effects on strength and general muscle shape as it esp fills the chest,shoulders,traps etc giving them a fuller look (mostly caused by water) At the end of the day the key is use and not abuse with orals - respect them and run ancillaries to combat sides and dont over use and you will be fine. Final thought imho avoid clomid - its a horrible drug

19-03-2005, 10:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
LM6000 Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 270 Rep Power:	Opex, many, many thanks - you've answered a hell of a lot of noob questions for me with good explanations as to what you are saying I've already had the "What shit are you taking?" routine, admittedly the 'shit' was M1T so fair enough I s'pose! Again many thanks Mate.